Another one for ya?

[Hill Billy]

Found this piece at a site some time back.
After finding the Quill Pen Holder it got me thinking about this piece.
Made of lead with a stamp on the inside center.
3/4 inch tall and round.
Whatcha think?

 

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[IronSpike]

I think it looks a lot like the quinn holder you found (except it's shorter).

 

[Hill Billy]

I think it looks a lot like the quinn holder you found (except it's shorter).

I added a photo of them side by side, and I agree they have similarties

 

[lairmo]

It certainly looks as if it could be another quill holder....I wonder what purpose the stamp on the inside served? Possibly just a pattern to keep the quill from sliding/slipping? Is the bottom flat? Also wonder if it might have something to do with wax sealing of documents.

 

[Hill Billy]

It certainly looks as if it could be another quill holder....I wonder what purpose the stamp on the inside served? Possibly just a pattern to keep the quill from sliding/slipping? Is the bottom flat? Also wonder if it might have something to do with wax sealing of documents.

I just cleaned the inside out of it this morning. it was packed full of dirt. After cleaning I noticed the stamp on the inside. I don't think it's a wax seal, but possible I guess. The bottom is flat.

 

[ivan salis]

shorter version of a quill holder --or maybe a small ink well of sorts

 

[johnnyi]

Unlike your other object, this one has evidently been squashed down by accident to give it the lean. Is the bottom flat with no design also? Is the design only on the inside? Is it two pieces which have been pressed together?

 

[IronSpike]

Unlike your other object, this one has evidently been squashed down by accident to give it the lean. Is the bottom flat with no design also? Is the design only on the inside? Is it two pieces which have been pressed together?

Squashed while being made or later on?

 

[Don in SJ]

Well after looking in my Collector's Illustrated Encyclopedia of the American Revolution by Neumann and Kravic, I am fairly certain , neither are Quill Pen Holders, but the mortar/cannon one is more likely to be a ink holder and not the quill holder, so the other object in this post also could remotely possibly be a ink holder also.

It seems all the Quill Holders in the book show much smaller holes for storing the Quill Pen and usually several holes to hold more than one Quill.

Still looking for true identities and hoping to hear back from an expert on your find.

Don

 

[johnnyi]

Well after looking in my Collector's Illustrated Encyclopedia of the American Revolution by Neumann and Kravic, I am fairly certain , neither are Quill Pen Holders, but the mortar/cannon one is more likely to be a ink holder and not the quill holder, so the other object in this post also could remotely possibly be a ink holder also.

It seems all the Quill Holders in the book show much smaller holes for storing the Quill Pen and usually several holes to hold more than one Quill.

Still looking for true identities and hoping to hear back from an expert on your find.

Don

Is the fist object necessarily a holder of any kind? Is there an outside chance it could be what it seems to look like, a very early toy "thunder mug" (early upright mortar of the type which did not have trunnions)? http://images.google.com/imgres?img...images?q=pewter+mortar+cannon&hl=en&sa=G&um=1

 

[Hill Billy]

Unlike your other object, this one has evidently been squashed down by accident to give it the lean. Is the bottom flat with no design also? Is the design only on the inside? Is it two pieces which have been pressed together?

No on the being squashed. The bottom is flat , and it's possible a piece is missing. It's all one piece with the same lean.

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

Both are old ink wells with missing lids. They are tilted to make quill dipping easier, and heavy so as not to be easily knocked over. There would have been a matching quill holder for each. And possibly even a salt dispenser for sprinkling on paper for faster ink drying and to lessen smearing. The pattern inside is decoritive, and may be linked to a specific maker design.

Nice find ... hang on to it/them until officially identified.

 

[IronSpike]

I agree both were designed for same function. Maybe a quill ink well holder? Then I guess technically it would be an ink well

They are really cool relics

 

[DCMatt]

I'm thinking school desk ink well, too. Something like this:

DCMatt

 

[intimer]

i know...it held the quill pen erasers!