Ancient roman gold. BC era kingdom coin made up of 8kt gold

Brianbarr88

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Hello,
I had this retested and it came back 8kt gold.
Turns out my friends expert also claims its from the BC era and that it belonged to one of the "kingdoms". I guess they only made the bronze ones for the public? Aparently this is something that was for richer people only, particually for people inside the kingdoms.
Pretty cool huh? I'm just wondering if you could pull one up that's similar. They say they made gold versions of these but I'm unable to find it online. A lot of Poole pointed me to the antoninus pius because it was ruled out as bronze. But it's not bronze, like I said I had it tested and it's 8kt gold. Idk what other metal alloys it's made with but its gold.

Before, I made posts stating i needed help id'ing it and I thought gold was ruled out due to it not passing a standard gold test(unknown what karat the guy was testing it at)
But had it tested again and it came back as 8kt gold.
Now, that being said, where can I find another like this to compare differences? Anybody know. I have looked online and can't find another like it. Everyone says it's an antoninus pius but I just don't see the resemblance on the head of the coin. The back, sure yeah there are a few that are almost close, but none are alike. If you look at the face of the coin in the image, you can see the difference. Unless they made gold ones too and just none other are on the Internet to be seen or bought. Anyone with insight or any information please do contact me. I'm considering on having it appraised and authenticated. I had a friend and a coin store owner both tell me it could range anywhere from 40,000-60,000 dollars. Are these guys blowing smoke or is that true?
Everything one of the guys told me so far has been true. His name is JJ. And he hasn't lied to me once, and has also advised me not to sell the coin for $300 as I planned to at first on Facebook.
He told me if its gold as he suspects it could be worth a lot of money. And his opinion was dead on of that guy at the coin store was. They both estimated 40-60k.
Anyways, thanks for anything, this piece is still suspect to me. image.jpg
 

I am afraid you are being led astray by "experts" who really are not. It obviously can not be from BC when it depicts Antoninius Pius from 155 AD! While I doubt it is gold, if you are so sure of it, and think it will bring big money, the only way to do it is have it authenticated by the real experts, David Sear, NGC etc.
 

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Get it graded. End the mystery for yourself. Then you'll be able to sell it if the NGC gives it their blessing!!!!


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Can't tell much with the shine from the holder obscuring the hair and lettering. Can't even tell if the figure is wearing a crown or not.

It really doesn't matter what it made of unless you're selling it for bullion value. The value is based on authenticity, rarity, condition and desirability.

I had a friend and a coin store owner both tell me it could range anywhere from 40,000-60,000 dollars.

The key is how much did they offer to buy it for? If they passed - that's a sign they don't have much confidence in a value. They won't pay more than they think they can sell it for. And if they don't think it can be sold then the practical and market value stands at zero. If it's a one-of-a-kind coin you're going to have a hell of a time proving it is authentic. NGC will grade it but they won't appraise it for value.

Here's a site that has some similar coins. If you want us to help you could start with writing down the lettering. Be much easier for you as you can see it in 3-D.

Click the link below.

Antoninus Pius
 

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Very cool, old and unique coin.
Origin found? Anything else in the area? Better pictures/ more?
 

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I am afraid you are being led astray by "experts" who really are not. It obviously can not be from BC when it depicts Antoninius Pius from 155 AD! While I doubt it is gold, if you are so sure of it, and think it will bring big money, the only way to do it is have it authenticated by the real experts, David Sear, NGC etc.

This.

OP, don't you recall that your experts originally told you this coin was made of "palladium or rhodium" (which many of us assured you was not the case)? Now you are saying that it tested as 8kt gold.. And I guess my question would be, how did they arrive at that conclusion exactly? I guess I don't recall stumbling upon ebay acid tests meant to discriminate 8kt gold, but maybe they exist. Anyway, as others have said, just get it authenticated to solve this.
 

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I count 9 (nine) separate threads the OP has generated concerning this coin.

Get the darned thing authenticated and graded by a professional service, and THEN you'll know what the real deal is.

Then you can generate a 10th (tenth) separate thread with the results.
 

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I think it's pretty funny that it is shown with a "Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price". The ink is hardly dry on that link. :laughing7:
 

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Mcl, where did u pull this up at? My friend found this exact one that was similar but wAs the only he was able to find on the Internet. The coin is 8kt gold and the reason I was told rhodium or palladium is because he wasn't sure. He just had a general idea about these types of coins. Although he had a real expert in ancient roman coins look at it and he said it was 8kt gold and that it was for the rich only. So that photo is the coin I possess. I already now know this, that it's 8kt gold, I just couldn't find any like it online. I'm having David sear take a look at it and having it authenticated in a few weeks when I have he money for him . Today's my bday tho, yay for me!
 

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The Romans required relatively pure gold (99% - almost 24K) for the payment of taxes (the Aureus coin had to weigh 1/40th of a Roman Pound). The lower quality gold they wouldn't accept; and it had lower worth (not higher). That was for the colonies and outer regions. Rhodium and Palladium both have lower density than gold (or silver) and would have not impressed a Roman.

They weren't dummies and used weight to determine worth.

Where did you hear that an impure coin was worth a premium among the rich?

Also, prior to this thread I have never heard carot weight used in describing coins other than typical modern (like US 19th - 21st century) gold coins are expected to be around 22k.
 

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