ANCIENT CHINESE COINCHINESE COIN EXPERTS I NEED HELP WITH IDENTIFICATION

[JOE-DIRTDIGGER]

CHINESE COIN EXPERTS I NEED HELP WITH IDENTIFICATION OF A POSSIBLE ANCIENT COIN

I am almost certain i found a old chinese coin today, i have been researching online but not finding this exact coin, i have found one or two very close that could be it, any and all help would be greatly appreciated, according to the ones it looks like this coin could be ancient, lets hope

 

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[JOE-DIRTDIGGER]

The first 3 pictures are the what i call the 4 sided symbols and the last 2 are the 2 sided symbols

 

[JOE-DIRTDIGGER]

i think this is the one i found what do you think

Authentic Chinese Ch'ing Dynasty (1644 - 1911 A.D.)
Bronze Coin 23mm (3.78 grams)

 

[JOE-DIRTDIGGER]

does anyone how to date these type coins, i found this online, am i to believe i found a coin from this time period

[h=2]Emperor JEN TSUNG
AD 1796-1820[/h][h=3]Reign title: CHAI-CH'ING, AD 1796-1820[/h]

S-1489 (but no star), "BOO CIOWAN" (Board of Revenue mint). The manchurian mint name translates to Pao-Ch'uan, or "The Fountain head of the Currency".

 

[JOE-DIRTDIGGER]

ami to believe i found a coin form this time period


[h=2]Emperor JEN TSUNG
AD 1796-1820[/h][h=3]Reign title: CHAI-CH'ING, AD 1796-1820[/h]

 

[JOE-DIRTDIGGER]

cmon experts i know your out there is this coin worth anything

 

[Mackaydon]

$2 Fine, $3 VF.
coins of china, the Ch'ing Dynasty ching
Don.....

 

[unclemac]

Chinese cash coin....not all that valuable or rare.

https://www.google.com/search?q=chi...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

read up...here are a few to chose from...

 

[JOE-DIRTDIGGER]

thats that site i found the pics on
why are these coins so cheap in value
is there any way to get an exact date on the coin since the era of this coin is 1644 - 1912

 

[JOE-DIRTDIGGER]

thanks mackaydon

 

[JOE-DIRTDIGGER]

thanks unclemac

 

[sagittarius98]

thats that site i found the pics on
why are these coins so cheap in value
is there any way to get an exact date on the coin since the era of this coin is 1644 - 1912

It is between AD 1796-1820. You can't get more detailed than that. Since the same coin was produced for 26 years, it has a very high mintage. There is no date, so each one is the same for 26 years.

 

[JOE-DIRTDIGGER]

It is between AD 1796-1820. You can't get more detailed than that. Since the same coin was produced for 26 years, it has a very high mintage. There is no date, so each one is the same for 26 years.

Thanks for the info I really appreciate it
Do you know why these coins are valued so cheaply and are so old. I do understand the high mintage but it's still a very Old coin

 

[Minrelica]

I dug a similar one last summer.. I learned that they were in circulation until the mid 1900's and many of them that are here in the states actually came here as adornments on sewing baskets.

 

[unclemac]

they are not valuable because .....1. very very common. 2. not made from a valuable metal. 3. not particularly interesting or beautiful. 4. easily copied and not artistically made to begin with. 5. most...(certainly not all) but most people collect coins, art, historical items, from their own country, this inflates the value of that item IN that country. China is AWASH with these coins, there is no market.

 

[Minrelica]

thats that site i found the pics on
why are these coins so cheap in value
is there any way to get an exact date on the coin since the era of this coin is 1644 - 1912

There is no way apparently.. When I was researching mine I sent pics to the admin of a site that specializes in Chinese and Japanese coins.. He could narrow it down to a 30 year period and that's it.. And he's an expert so...

 

[Generic_Lad]

Thanks for the info I really appreciate it
Do you know why these coins are valued so cheaply and are so old. I do understand the high mintage but it's still a very Old coin

Because they were made in quantity, had a low face value, and have little artistic value (like what other posters have said)

Old != rare.
Rare != valuable.

You go over to Europe and you can find medieval silver coins that sell for roughly scrap. Many date to 1200 AD or even earlier but they were made in quantity and in low grade coins are common.

Online you can buy Roman coins for under $3 a piece that date to 300-400 AD. Such as ( Unattributed Late Roman Bronze Coin ) If you buy in bulk you can get coins for under $1 a piece. And yes, these are authentic coins.

Indeed rarity does not make something valuable either.

In 1999 there were 1,505,026 1 ounce gold eagles made. These coins sell for ~$1,650 depending on the spot price of gold. Even a scratched and dinged coin will sell for ~$1,650

On the other hand, you can get an 1868-S half dollar in MS-60 condition for ~$475. There were only 1,160,000 of these coins made and its a much older coin. In worn condition the value drops to $100 or less.

The majority of a coin's value comes from their intrinsic (or face) value in all but the highest grade or rarest coins. This is why a gold eagle sells for more than a 1868-S half dollar. This is why a more common silver dollar sells for more than a slightly more rare silver quarter.

The rest depends on collector demand and the grade. There are more collectors of Mercury Dimes than of Hungarian Pengő coins. So this is why a Hungarian coin with the same mintage, grade and intrinsic value as the 1916-D Mercury Dime sells for a tenth of the Mercury Dime.

 

[Mackaydon]

Basic Economics 101:
Value starts with Demand for an item. Without any demand there is no value, notwithstanding its quantity, age,condition or utility.
Chinese coins have little value for all the reason Generic Lad (and others) have mentioned above.
Don........

 

[JOE-DIRTDIGGER]

Thanks everyone for all the input, very informative from all of you, it all makes sense, i more than appreciate this site for people like you all, thanks again

 

[Frankyg]

You are absolutely right generic lad. I detect in the UK and have found hundreds of medieval hammered coins, sometimes in great condition but usually very worn, almost smooth. I've just sold 26 very poor coins from about the 15th Century for £1 ($1.20) each on E-Bay. Equally I have sold a hammered shilling of Edward 6th in fine condition for £120 ($160).