American Colonial Coin

[romeo-1]

I found this coin this evening. I can only make out the letters "ect" andthen possibly "a"...anyone give a hand?

 

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[Don in SJ]

My initial impression is I see part of the shield, the arm, and some of the other devices you normally see on a British coin. (I Think) I do not think it is a American Colonial. But so far the letters showing just are not registering what it might be. I am sure someone will chime in shortly. Rotate the first photo to the left 90*.

Don

 

[romeo-1]

My initial impression is I see part of the shield, the arm, and some of the other devices you normally see on a British coin. (I Think) I do not think it is a American Colonial. But so far the letters showing just are not registering what it might be. I am sure someone will chime in shortly. Rotate the first photo to the left 90*.

Don

I can see Britannia but like you it is the lettering that is throwing me off...that's why I was thinking Ameican...something I am not really familiar with...

 

[BuckleBoy]

Connecticut Copper?

 

[Don in SJ]

First coins I looked at were CT coppers, but the letters are wrong for that and the letters we see appear to be on the Reverse side, not the Obverse side.

Usually there should be BRITTANIA or INDE ET LIB or some variation of that on the Reverse side. There also appears to be a date bar at the bottom.

Attached is the photo rotated 90*.

Either the answer to what this coin might be is so easy that the forest cannot be seen from the trees , or it is an anomaly. But, perhaps the best answer for now is that is could be a KGIII Evasion issue. Evasion counterfeits were made to circumvent the British counterfeiting laws, since they produced coppers with obverse and reverse designs similar to Regal coppers but deviated legends such as George Rules instead of George III Rex or Briton Isles instead of Britannia as examples.

Whatever it is, the coin is interesting because it is "different".

Don

 

[Montana Jim]

Nova Eborac Copper ?

 

[Don in SJ]

Jim, I looked at all possible candidates in Red Book, and a few other books and found nothing close. A bit frustrating on what wording the letters could be part of. protECT And ------ was one of my thoughts-- but for now still a mystery. I sent a feeler out to a couple of friends who might have a new idea. I do believe my possiblity of it being an Evasion issue is a good answer for now.

Romeo, can you weigh the coin, or can you tell it is lightweight like the vast majority of KGIII Halfpennies found?

Don

 

[Iron Patch]

First coins I looked at were CT coppers, but the letters are wrong for that and the letters we see appear to be on the Reverse side, not the Obverse side.

Usually there should be BRITTANIA or INDE ET LIB or some variation of that on the Reverse side. There also appears to be a date bar at the bottom.

Attached is the photo rotated 90*.

Either the answer to what this coin might be is so easy that the forest cannot be seen from the trees , or it is an anomaly. But, perhaps the best answer for now is that is could be a KGIII Evasion issue. Evasion counterfeits were made to circumvent the British counterfeiting laws, since they produced coppers with obverse and reverse designs similar to Regal coppers but deviated legends such as George Rules instead of George III Rex or Briton Isles instead of Britannia as examples.

Whatever it is, the coin is interesting because it is "different".

Don

You followed my exact line of thought, first ruling out CT, the ECT I guess made us think of "Connec" or "Auctori" but of course incorrect. Evasion then did come to mind but since so few are found, and I don't have any good references, I moved on to other possibilities. Those letters don't register with me for the evasions I know of, but there are many, I'm just familar with the more common ones. The other possibilities is condor/trade token as some do depict the seated Britannia, like a Leith Halfpenny. The last choice would be something else European and post Colonial, lots of "seated" coins out there. The key maybe figuring out what legend has ECT (A?) in it.

 

[Don in SJ]

OK, I played a bit with the Obverse photo and I see a George Bust facing Left, so it is possible a George II Halfpenny Evasion issue or something else. Anybody else see the bust, also some letters are almost there, will look at them now.

Don

 

[Don in SJ]

Not American - It IS a KGII Evasion Halfpenny

Duh, staring me in the face, on the Notre Dame website. DELECTA ROMANUS on the Reverse.

Don

 

[Montana Jim]

Outstanding Don!

 

[Iron Patch]

Cool and a duh for me too. I could have told you likely Geo. II, said it to Romeo last right. Turning it makes it even more clear. I did come across the Claudius Romanus as I was at the same site! My stupid mistake was I didn't match the ECT with the other side!

Rarely see evasions found here. That's only the 2nd I know of.

I'd be ^&^%$ if this was a million dollar competition because I had all I needed to ID and didn't go with my gut and started thinking other stupid thoughts.

Good find and maybe even better ID!

 

[romeo-1]

Awesome...thanks for the ID...great work! Myh first evasion issue copper!