A QUESTION FOR GARRETT USERS

[kindafoundabuckle]

I have never used a 2500 or 1500 but I was just wondering about the "screen" that shows the size of the target in the ground. For you guys and gals that have used one with this feature how good is it? Is it 100 percent accurate 50 percent etc etc. If it is a useful feature I would consider buying one for coinshooting in trashy areas where coins and rings are what Im after. Also how about the depth with the stock coil. Will it hold its weight with the Whites and the machine from down under. Any help answering my questions would be appreciated and thanks in advance,

KFB

 

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[John-Edmonton]

The sizing feature on the GTI 1500, GTI 2500 & GTP 1350 isn't 100% accurate, as is any other discrimination feature such as coin icons, tones and depth readings. These are just probabilities to help you make a good decision based on your own experience with detector(s). The accuracy of these improves with experience in the field. They do have limitations, and your learning curve will help you determine their boundaries in your type of soil.

Now having said that, the sizing feature will tell you many times what is NOT a coin sized object, and very fast at that. Coins, as a general rule do read as proper size according to the GTI/GTP machine you are using. This is good information to have, especially if you are coin/jewellry hunting. It allows you to NOT dig junk, leaving more time available to dig good targets. All the above mentioned machines were designed with coin hunting in mind. If you are not in the USA, you will find your own common currency showing up at different locations on the screen. The GTI 2500 is the only mentioned machine with a true all metal mode and ability to be ground balanced. This gives it better depth, if that is important to you. Keep in mind that nearly all coins dug are in the top 4-5 inches, unless of course you are digging ancient coins like in the UK.

I have been using Garretts for nearly 15 years, and I should be breaking the 100,000 coin mark soon.

As for some of the other detectors you mentioned....some will not read some of our Canadian coins well, or even at all.

Good luck with your search. You are asking some good questions. Good luck with whatever machine you get.

 

[Eu_citzen]

I have never used a 2500 or 1500 but I was just wondering about the "screen" that shows the size of the target in the ground. For you guys and gals that have used one with this feature how good is it? Is it 100 percent accurate 50 percent etc etc. If it is a useful feature I would consider buying one for coinshooting in trashy areas where coins and rings are what Im after. Also how about the depth with the stock coil. Will it hold its weight with the Whites and the machine from down under. Any help answering my questions would be appreciated and thanks in advance,

KFB

I once used a 2500 and will fill you in on my experience.

The sizing feature is depending on how accurate your pinpoint is, the further away the less accurate.

If your pinpoint is very good I'd say about 80 to 90% accurate thats my own experience.

The sizing was the only thing I could rely on when coin shooting but your in the US and it was designed for your coins.

It is only fooled by iron on both size and ID.

I can get about 8" on a coin with correct sizing.

Now to the weight I think it's about the same but the balance really sucks.

The 2500 does miss many of our Swedish coins and with a none reliable ID it sucks.

For me it is the DFX hands down for coins & jewelry.
Only for relics would the 2500 be slightly better then the DFX.

But thats my experience and this might not apply to you.

 

[Iron Patch]

Found more once I forgot about the sizing/screen and just went by sound - GTI 1500

Then found even more once I changed detectors but that's another story.

 

[kwdstalker]

i have not had my 2500 very long but the size screen has been right on around 75 to 80 percent of the time here in nebraska

 

[Uncle Willy]

No feature on any machine is 100% accurate. If there was one everybody in the world would have one. Detectors display probabilities or what they think the target is based on conductivity. The GTI's are about as good as they get and only they have the imaging feature which will really spoil you for other machines.

The GTI's are programmed for American coins only so don't read foreign coins accurately. One problem many owners have ( and I ran into this constantly when I ran the Garrett Classroom years back ) is pinpointing and centering the target correctly. This is absolutely critical with GTI's to obtain accurate readings of any type. You can't get sloppy like you can with other machines or you are screwed from the get go. If done correctly the pinpointing is as deadly as it gets and the readings are about 90%. Remember, detecting is 10% machine - 90% operator, not the other way around. You have to be smarter than the machine.

AS for depth the GTI's are about as good as it gets. Most dropped coins aren't buried halfway to China as many seem to think and are well within the reach of most machines out there. The GTi's will find them as deep as you probably want to dig. Depth is controlled by many variables ( mainly mineralization ) and no machine made will get the same depth all over the world.

Bill

Bill

 

[kindafoundabuckle]

Thanks for the info willy

KFB

 

[Bum Luck]

Remember, detecting is 10% machine - 90% operator, not the other way around. You have to be smarter than the machine.

Truer words were never spoken.

Practice, practice, practice.

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

I was out this spring with a buddy of mine. We were detecting an old park. I was using my DFX, and he was using the Garrett 2500. I beleive I was using a modified Relic program with the stock 950 coil using 3 filters, and he was using the bigger Deep Seeker coil.

I had gotten a nice quarter signal at about 6 inches, but after digging the plug I lost the signal, so I knew it must have dropped deeper into the hole. I swept the DFX coil over the hole and got nothing. I pinpointed and found it in the hole, about 10 or 11 inches deep. I called over my buddy and he got a nice bell tone reading quarter, right on the money! I could have tried different settings and/or the larger Super 12 coil and tried again but I just shook my head and moved on! I was very impressed with the Garrett. They have come a long way since I owned my CXIII (which was a great machine, but lacked depth). I still love the ACE for coin shooting, and I certainly would consider owning one of the higher end machines again.

Just an observation!

 

[Eu_citzen]

Here's my observation on the Garrett GTI for Sweden, in lightly mineralized ground.
(Coarse GEB numbers are around 171 for those with a DFX)

I get about same depth as GTI set on sens at 8 BUT sensitivity on SMALL targets the DFX is Superior compared to the GTI. (in disc mode)

All my observations are in Disc mode as All metal is not practical in the majorities of areas.
And with the 9.5" coils on both.


Depth is good for both, but when we compare Disc the DFX has more to offer.

Now we go for the detector in it's self:
DFX:
Good balance
made partly out of Metal
Durable
coil without cover looks "weak" compared to GTI
comfortable for arm and hand. (arm cup etc)
Fairly small LCD

GTI:
Balance sucks
Composite materials(?)
If your swinging to fast it can be wobbly
comfortable for arm and hand. (arm cup etc)
coil looks durable and strong (Rhino tough coil)
Big LCD

Regards,
Eu