✅ SOLVED A little help with 2 items, if I may.

[WHADIFIND]

The button looks like it says " & sons" on top and the letters "hil" on the bottom. At least to these tired eyes.
Oh, and the little slip of silver in the picture of the button, at the top? That was a dime for size comparison.
He must've moved when I took the picture.

The other thing looks like it had been a pin on at one time. Ribbon? Medal? Brooch?

Thanks and happy Thanksgiving!

HH!

 

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[Silver Searcher]

I think the bottom one is a suspender clip Mate.

SS

 

[tennessee digger]

I'm not sure about the first item but the second one I am sure about. It is definitely a suspender buckle and is from the 1880's to about 1900 (based on the style). Hope this helps. Tennessee digger

 

[tennessee digger]

Silver Searcher nailed it while I was still typing. It had something attached to the circle. Tennessee digger

 

[Silver Searcher]

Silver Searcher nailed it while I was still typing. It had something attached to the circle. Tennessee digger

I noticed that aswell

SS

 

[WHADIFIND]

I noticed that aswell

SS

Thanks SS and Tennessee digger. I think I agree, but I'm a little confused by what looks like a place for a pin on the back. Like it was a pin on or something.

Anyway, thanks!

HH!

 

[tennessee digger]

Not a pin at all. It had a thin brass bar that went were it looks like a "pin" was. The cloth on the suspender went under that bar and it was used to provide tension on the cloth. Look at some pictures of old suspenders and you will see how it worked. The first picture, by the way, looks like a musician's button as that looks like a lyre on the front. Possible Scovall and sons backmark. Tennessee digger

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Deciphering your button's incompletely-readable backmark:
Based on the word "Sons", followed by "hil" ...most likely, the backmark is "W.H. Horstmann & Sons Phil" (located in Philadelphia PA). According to the backmark-dating book by McGuinn & Bazelon, that backmark was in service between 1880 and 1893. However, button-making companies sometimes used old "leftover" backs on later products.

Your photo shows the button upside-down. It is a "Career Uniform" button. The initials on it (UT Co) represent the Union Traction Company. The UT Co. was an Electric Railway business, operating electrical streetcars in Indiana and several other states. That button is still being sold by its manufacturer, the Waterbury Button Co. of Waterbury CT. You can view that information (and a photo showing the same button) on that company's website, at: 6859 - Companies - Waterbury Button

 

[WHADIFIND]

Deciphering your button's incompletely-readable backmark:
Based on the word "Sons", followed by "hil" ...most likely, the backmark is "W.H. Horstmann & Sons Phil" (located in Pliladelphia PA). According to the backmark-dating book by McGuinn & Bazelon, that backmark was in service between 1880 and 1893. However, button-making companies sometimes used old "leftover" backs on later products.

Your photo shows the button upside-down. It is a "Career Uniform" button. The initials on it (UT Co) represent the Union Traction Company. The UT Co. was an Electric Railway business, operating electrical streetcars in Indiana and several other states. That button is still being sold by its manufacturer, the Waterbury Button Co. of Waterbury CT. You can view that information (and a photo showing the same button) on that company's website, at: 6859 - Companies - Waterbury Button

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3 Huzzahs for the CannonballGuy!

Say, do you have a direct page? That way I wouldn't need to bother all these wonderful people.

Thanks again!

HH!

 

[tennessee digger]

Now you know what both items are and good ID from TheCannonballGuy. I would have never got that one. Tennessee digger

 

[WHADIFIND]

Now you know what both items are and good ID from TheCannonballGuy. I would have never got that one. Tennessee digger

Thanks for your efforts! I would never have guessed the suspender clip.

HH!

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

WHADIFIND wrote:
> Say, do you have a direct page? That way I wouldn't need to bother all these wonderful people.

No, I don't have a website. But if you've got a holiday weekend with nothing more important to do, you can get a bunch of (free) relic-education by reading my 1,300 "relic-ID answer" posts here at TreasureNet. To do that... log in to TN, find one of my What-Is-It posts, left-click on my name, and select "View Forum Posts."

(Please remember, Treasurenet won't let you do that if you aren't logged in.)

 

[WHADIFIND]

WHADIFIND wrote:
> Say, do you have a direct page? That way I wouldn't need to bother all these wonderful people.

No, I don't have a website. But if you've got a holiday weekend with nothing more important to do, you can get a bunch of (free) relic-education by reading my 1,300 "relic-ID answer" posts here at TreasureNet. To do that... log in to TN, find one of my What-Is-It posts, left-click on my name, and select "View Forum Posts."

(Please remember, Treasurenet won't let you do that if you aren't logged in.)

Thanks! I will remember to check that out!

HH!