✅ SOLVED A little button

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This one looks like it has gold gilt on it.It is a small flat button that has the words Browne Nashville on one side and Turner and Company Patent on the other. Where the thread would go through the metal is depressed.Hope someone can help me identify it.
 

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Can't hep ya ma'am, but ah do want ya ta know yer in a polite society. My wife's from Scott County, still has a bunch of cousins
living there.
 

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Why thank ya mate!
 

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CG, I'm not the button person, but I think this button is French and was made during the later half of the 19th century.
Neat find :)
Breezie
 

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Not sure how to date those other than looking up the Company name but I know some date to the 1850's
 

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Thanks Kuger and Breezy.
 

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Neat button, I've never found one of those with gold gilt.
 

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A long lost cousin:

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"A very rare & highly desirable button!!! I found this button{metal detecting} along with the ''I'' button that is listed years ago in downtown Macon,Ga. Reads: SHEA & POWELL MACON Back: TURNER & CO. PATENT It is un-listed in Alberts book of buttons! I did find a 1860's newspaper advertisement that showed that this company was in Macon,Ga. & sold clothing & other items!! ..." From.

The "Patent" makes me think British, Breezie. There was one dug in Argyll, which I assume is Scotland:

"One complete 19th/20th century cast machine-made brass button was found with the makers mark 'TURNER & Co PATENT' (Cuddeford 1994, 15, no 29)." http://highmorlaggan.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/High-Morlaggan-metal-report_Dawn-McLaren1.pdf

There's this: http://www.buttoncrs.com/pdffiles/rowley15nov1842152.pdf from Patents from the United Kingdom

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According to the following website, your 4-hole button was made in Britain, sometime between 1843 and many-many decades later. The website shows a 4-hole brass button marked "Turner & Co. Patent", as yours is marked. Keep in mind, Patented objects were often manufactured for many decades after the Patent for them was issued. For example, the 1861-patent Mason jars were made (with that marking) for many decades afterward. That patent-date does NOT mean the jar was made during the civil war. See button f13s at the website's photos of British-patented buttons. Patents from the United Kingdom

The "Browne / Nashville" on the other side of the button is most probably the name of a tailor/clothing shop which ordered your 4-hole button from Turner & Co.

For anybody here who doesn't already know:
The great majority of button-backmarks do not tell the name of the button's manufacturer -- but instead, tell the name of a button-dealer, tailor, or clothing-supplier company who ordered the buttons from the manufacturer. Perhaps the most famous example of that in the civil war button-collecting field is the "Hyde & Goodrich / New Orleans" backmark on various civil war era southern State Seal buttons, such as Louisiana and Mississippi Infantry buttons. In actuality, Hyde & Goodrich did not manufacture any buttons... all of the Hyde & Goodrich backmark buttons were made by the Scovill Manufacturing Co in Waterbury Connecticut.

Also, the various Horstmann companies (Horstmann & Allien, Horstmann & Sons, Horstmann Bros. & Co., etc) never manufactured any buttons. They were produced by actual button-makers such as the Waterbury Button Co. and the Scovill Mfg. Company.

Edit: Surf and I were typing at the same time. But I am much more long-winded than he is. ;-) I tend to add "educational" info like the examples of backmarks which tell a store's name instead of the name of the button's manufacturer.
 

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John Browne, Merchant Tailor does show in the 1860 Nashville Directory (listing) and he is in business at least until 1885(picture ad).
 

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Well, well done, CannonballGuy & Bramblefind!

Mr. John Browne completely eluded me, but I did see way more of Jackson Browne than I'm used to. 8-)

Thanks, gentlemen!

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Oops! My apologies, Lady Bramblefind.

And, a very smart one.

I've definitely noticed this.

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Thank you friends for putting together the pieces of this puzzle.
 

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