A few finds from the other day. Need yalls help!

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Is the artillery shell a Dyer?

What is the lead piece with the 8?

Any idea on the cartridge with the U?View attachment 1216403View attachment 1216404View attachment 1216405View attachment 1216406View attachment 1216407
 

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Need some additional information like:
What state yur in?
Type of area these were found in?
Field, park, church, barn, or the like?
Weights?
Dimensions?
Scale?
Magnetic?
Its called clues.
 

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upper left....rimfire rifle casing my guess..mid to late 1800s.a pic focused in on headstamp would help nail it down....the(lead?)disk with 8 on it is possibly a scale weight
 

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Found in the front yard of a house that is near civil war camp sites. The piece is lead and nonmagnetic, weighs 1.4 ounces, and is about the same size as a morgan dollar and has to crude looking holes in it
 

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I believe your "U" cartridge dates from 1867-1912. It was made by the Union Metallic Cartridge Company in Bridgeport, CT. They were in business from 1867 until Remington bought them out in 1912. I am not sure if the "U" headstamp was used after that date or not.
 

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thats a union metallic cartridge shell casing...if ya wanna know what rifle it came from you are gonna have to ACCURATLY measure it....looks a bit like a 44 henry but thats a simple guess.
 

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btw...weigh the 8 disc
 

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I'd like to see a pic of the back of the circular lead piece to see if it is some type of lead seal; perhaps a trade seal. There's also a possibility it could be a camp art gaming token/poker chip.

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Since nobody has answered about your shell find, I'll speak up. Yes, it is a civil war era 3"-caliber US Dyer shell. missing its lead/zinc/solder "cup sabot" which covered its rounded base.
 

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The round lead disk with the #8 looks like a pendulum weight from a clock
 

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I'd like to see a pic of the back of the circular lead piece to see if it is some type of lead seal; perhaps a trade seal. There's also a possibility it could be a camp art gaming token/poker chip.

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Breezie

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The symbol on the lead piece appears to be the infinity symbol, not a #8. Judging by the 2 holes in the back that appear to almost go through the front, it could be a bail seal, and the cross-over piece is broken off.

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The symbol on the lead piece appears to be the infinity symbol, not a #8. Judging by the 2 holes in the back that appear to almost go through the front, it could be a bail seal, and the cross-over piece is broken off.

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Breezie
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Thank you for everyone's help. Breezie what is a Bail Seal exactly? Also what do you think of the idea of it being a lead counter or tally used from the 1700s to early 1800's? They were used as tokens or equaled a british farthing
 

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Thank you for everyone's help. Breezie what is a Bail Seal exactly? Also what do you think of the idea of it being a lead counter or tally used from the 1700s to early 1800's? They were used as tokens or equaled a british farthing

This page will give you some info about lead seals:
baleclothseals

Yes, it's possible it could be a token or a gaming chip as I mentioned earlier. You may want to do some research on those with an infinity symbol.

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Breezie
 

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