Born2Late
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A couple of unrelated "what's its"
Hope it's okay to post "what's its" that I own, but didn't personally find. I've had both of these for a few years, but have never been able to definitively identify them.
The first piece appears to depict George I (ruled 1714-1727) and is in the same style as Indian trade medals of that period (e.g., NeoCollect - George I Indian Trade Medal and Don_in_SJ's thread http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/m...e-i-indian-peace-medal-circa-1714-1720-a.html). The trade medals are larger in diameter (I believe about 40mm). This piece is 24mm and weighs 74.5 grains. It has a plain edge and appears to be made of brass or Pinchbeck. It was suggested to me that it might be a wedding medalet. However, George was married long before he became king, so I don't think so. I don't know where this was found. A well-known dealer friend told me that he had owned an example and that there was one in the John Ford sales, though I haven't yet located the latter in the catalogs. He said that both were in similar condition to mine and that neither was identified. Any information about what the reverse represents (one figure appears to me to be an Indian - fingers crossed), the purpose of the piece and/or whether it has North American relevance will be much appreciated.
The other piece is larger, probably about 35mm (photos not to scale) and appears to be made of pewter. It has a reeded edge if I remember correctly. I do not remember the weight - will check - may be important here. One side bears the insignia of the 85th Light Foot Regiment. The other "3D". I'm not sure whether this refers to drachms, three pence or some sub-division of the regiment. If it is a weight, would it have been used by a medic? An artillery gunner? A quartermaster? If it is a token, by a sutler? As a gaming token?
What has me intrigued is that it was supposedly found at Sackett's Harbor, New York. The 85th is one of the groups that left Sackett's Harbor to go and burn Washington, DC in 1814. Wondering if it could really be that old (?) Thoughts?
Many thanks.
Hope it's okay to post "what's its" that I own, but didn't personally find. I've had both of these for a few years, but have never been able to definitively identify them.
The first piece appears to depict George I (ruled 1714-1727) and is in the same style as Indian trade medals of that period (e.g., NeoCollect - George I Indian Trade Medal and Don_in_SJ's thread http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/m...e-i-indian-peace-medal-circa-1714-1720-a.html). The trade medals are larger in diameter (I believe about 40mm). This piece is 24mm and weighs 74.5 grains. It has a plain edge and appears to be made of brass or Pinchbeck. It was suggested to me that it might be a wedding medalet. However, George was married long before he became king, so I don't think so. I don't know where this was found. A well-known dealer friend told me that he had owned an example and that there was one in the John Ford sales, though I haven't yet located the latter in the catalogs. He said that both were in similar condition to mine and that neither was identified. Any information about what the reverse represents (one figure appears to me to be an Indian - fingers crossed), the purpose of the piece and/or whether it has North American relevance will be much appreciated.
The other piece is larger, probably about 35mm (photos not to scale) and appears to be made of pewter. It has a reeded edge if I remember correctly. I do not remember the weight - will check - may be important here. One side bears the insignia of the 85th Light Foot Regiment. The other "3D". I'm not sure whether this refers to drachms, three pence or some sub-division of the regiment. If it is a weight, would it have been used by a medic? An artillery gunner? A quartermaster? If it is a token, by a sutler? As a gaming token?
What has me intrigued is that it was supposedly found at Sackett's Harbor, New York. The 85th is one of the groups that left Sackett's Harbor to go and burn Washington, DC in 1814. Wondering if it could really be that old (?) Thoughts?
Many thanks.
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