A BUTTON FIND YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE!!!!

[zaxfire69]

OK>>>First off I want to say that I didn't find this button myself SO I can not take credit for it..ALTHOUGH I did do the leg work for my friend in researching this button... He dug this on his property on an Old Plantation site in Natchez, Mississippi. He sent me the pictures on hopes that I could help him find out what it was. Well I had no idea it was going to turn out like it did. After a fellow in What is it forum said that it was in the Alberts Button book another friend of mine actually had the book and showed me the picture and the information on the button. I am Blown away....That is all I can say...I will let the pictures do the talking. Wow...!!!!! More research on why this button was down here in Mississippi will have to be done...zaxfire69

Georgetown college cadets, Washington , D.C., "Jacob Gminder./Baltimore", staff, 1789, relative value 10

SU 123 in Albrts button book

 

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[Argentium]

I don't know jack about buttons , can anybody tell me what the rarity /value of this button is ? Sure is in nice condition !!!

 

[bountyhuntergirl86]

really awesome button... Congrats & HH

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Have you gotten the back-mark info yet?.

 

[zaxfire69]

Still waiting. That will be the key.

 

[zaxfire69]

I was excited just to see another picture of one. There is absolutely zero pictures of one on the Internet. I looked all day. I hope it turns out the way I think it will. An awesome find for my neck of the woods!

 

[jamesbibb]

If the backmark is period thats a great find. As far as it being down south. Most of tge cadets served for the confederacy.

Check this out from the ROTC history page. Gotta love the strive of them southern boys...

"As the Civil War approached, the nation’s boiling emotions affected the campus dearly. Georgetown, located in the Federal capital, was attended mostly by southern students and this sometimes caused tension. In 1861 a U.S. Army engineer visited the College to survey the area from the school's lofty windows. A Georgetown graduate accompanied Captain E. F. Prime but this did not ensure a warm welcome. The Southern students surrounded their horses and lined the road to the school building. As the officer rode between the ranks, a tall Texan youth stepped to the front, waved his cap in the air, and yelled, "Three cheers for Jeff Davis and the Southern Confederacy!" The lines responded with a deafening roar. Captain Prime gracefully smiled and exclaimed, "Hurrah! Boys, Hurrah! I was once a boy myself."[15]

But Georgetown's involvement in the Civil War was far more serious than this anecdote reveals. The war divided the student body and pitted brother against brother. Approximately 1100 students and faculty fought, 200 for the Union and 900 for the Confederacy. 358 Georgetown cadets are included in this number. A few were veterans of the Seminole War who knew the horrors of combat. Many were college freshmen with no military training other than the year they had spent as a member of the College Cadets. Some of our cadets who fought in the Civil War were the youngest soldiers to see combat in Hoya Battalion history. Sadly, 117 cadets died during the conflict."

 

[BARKER]

The Buttons Are Different Here.

HI zaxfire69; A few Details Question. On the button found the Glowing Emblem above the Eagles Head is different from the one in the book. The Tail Feather arrangement is different than the one in the book. The Lettering is different than the one in the book. The Eagles Feathers are different. Above the Cross there is a Secondary Emblem not shown on the one in the book and the Emblem above the Eagles Left Wing is also different as well. I think your close but you must do more research as I don't believe these buttons are the same ok. I wish they were but they are Not. I mean this info in a helpful way ok. Best wishes and Good Hunting. PEACE:RONB

 

[HutSiteDigger]

It's more then likely civil war era or even post ... What Is It thread is got some good input on it.

 

[jewelerguy]

sweet find!

 

[flatbutton]

H O L Y C R A P ! I think its freaking awsome! Period or not, Its still a nice piece.

 

[zaxfire69]

I believe that is dirt and corrosion above the cross.

 

[zaxfire69]

I'm thinking civil war era, but I have to get the backmark to be sure. Getting that now.

 

[zaxfire69]

Its a Civil War era back mark....Waterbury Button Co. Extra....

 

[HutSiteDigger]

That back-mark dates it to the 1860s.. Being around civil war artifacts all the time for quite some time, I have never seen a Georgetown Cadet, it is a very good find. There is a 1860. Tintype photograph of an unknown pre-Civil War Georgetown College Cadet with button. Gift of the Liljenquist Family, 2010. in the Georgetown Library. You should tell your friend that - if he ever wants to go there and look at it. I found on the Georgetown website this photo which should be that 1860 photo, Georgetown Special Collections: American History, i seem to not be able to find this photo on either of those pages but if you go to Google and type in "Georgetown College Cadet 1860" it will pop up this image in "images" and direct you to the Georgetown website I posted.

 

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[zaxfire69]

Thanks to Hutsitedigger and all you fine T-net folks. Not very much out there on this button and what is even more intriguing is just how it got down here. Guess that will be up to my friends to figure that out! Thanks everybody!

 

[BARKER]

HI zaxfire69; Let us know the FINAL outcome on this one ok. Happy Hunting. PEACE:RONB

 

[zaxfire69]

Well I want to thank everyone again for liking and commenting. I know he will probably never find another button like this one. If you really think about it and imagine the Cadet walking or standing there and his button coming off. I think it is amazing. You know most everyone that hunts Civil War relics never take the time to understand or even think about how a relic like a button or bullet actually ended up in the ground. When you dig something we just put it in our pouch and keep on detecting. I ask all of you that detect to spend some time researching and take a moment or two to put yourself in that persons shoes that lost an item. It is fun for me to imagine what that person was doing to have lost a button or even dropped a bullet or ring or whatever. Don't just dig it live it. You know what I mean It makes detecting much more enjoyable. The Final outcome was a civil war era button backmark. Very cool find. Now I need to get out and find me a some virgin ground and dig some amazing relics. They are still out there just waiting to be found.

 

[North AL]

Absolutely true Zax. I live very close to the Battle of Sulpher Creek Trestle in Alabama and have often wondered how many soldiers marched or retreated through my very own yard and what was going through those young mens minds.