A bone iceskate from the 14th century...

woody50

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Yesterday I went to Enkhuizen, a small town about 12 miles away because I had heard that the city was digging in streets of the old part of the town and putting in new sewer pipes. Since even bronze era finds had been found in the town, you know that its old and you can find nice historical stuff there. The spoils (dugged earth) from the digging were brought to an area behind some buildings outside the city limits.

The piles I searched
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I drove and found the dirt, and saw 4 friends digging away at the piles. Went to talk with them and heard that they had good luck in the begin when the dirt first was dumped there, although they got kicked out twice. The dirt had been spread out to dry, so hunting was easy. But after a while the digging company pushed the earth up in big piles, so it was harder to search. But by that time the wonders had been found. Many Pilgrims insigne's and coins, and many old artifacts from the begin of the town.

The good pile, they searched until it was flat.
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So I did not expect much then, they were searching in ground that was already searched two or three times but they invited me to join which I did. Well after about 4 hours I only had a few finds, and about 5 in the afternoon we all called it quits. And just in time, I drove about 300 meters when it started to rain. Although not much was found yesterday it was great to search in old ground, nice and soft and buckets full of broken ceramic material, mostly from the 17th century, of which I brought a few buckets back home with me.

My best finds were a nice thin bronze ring, pretty darn old, don't know yet how old though. A cute tiny lock, no key though, darn. Two fragments of Pilgrim insigne's, from the 13th to 12th century. And I guess my best find was a bone ice skate a pity part of it was broken off, but it was my first. Although I have seen many found by others, I never did find even a piece of one. So I really like it.

My Finds:
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Here is what the skate looked like before it was broken.
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A little history about ice skates. Some people think they were invented in Switzerland, but I am pretty sure it was Holland. Holland was back in the early days mostly water and you had to get around in the cold winters, when all the water froze over. Holland was about 80% water back then, not much dry land, so they needed a way to cross it. The bone blades were made of bones from animal legs that had holes drilled into them at each end, and through the hole they passed a thick leather lacing to be able to strap them their boots. These skates were most likely used to aid in crossing frozen lakes while hunting or fishing. Some of the earlist ice skates were found at the bottom of a lake in Switzerland and dated to around 3000 BC, and the bone skates were still used until about 1900, although by that time other improved skates appeared.

14th Century ice skate
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Bone skate with straps (Modern)
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The Dutch improved the skates by mounting a metal blade to a flat wooden surface. Leather straps tied this assembly to the skater's shoes. Poles similar to ski poles were used to create forward motion. Later the Dutch also improved skates by adding the double edge blade or concave cut that is still utilized to this day to give the skater the ability to create the forward motion with out using poles. This could perhaps be considered the beginning of the more modern day ice skate as we know it today.

A 19th Century ice skate
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I have heard of them but its the first post I have seen with one on :icon_thumright:

You do have it tough, having to chase JCBs around :P
 

How cool is that. :icon_thumright:
 

Interesting post. Looks like a great place to hunt. It is a shame they do not want anyone hunting the piles. Enjoyed the history of the bone skate as well. I had only seen the ice gliders from the Dakota's posted by larson over in artifacts :thumbsup:
 

Congrats Earl :icon_thumleft:

I know you're running out of "wanted's".
 

Very interesting style of game in the Netherlands :o .... Greetings! :hello:
 

Very intresting finds, & great history about the bone ice skates. :thumbsup:

Fossis...........
 

Excellent relics! :icon_thumright: Thanks for sharing the pics and history on the skates. What would such a tiny lock be used for?

HH
 

cntrydncr1 said:
looks like a great place to hunt. I love the ring
Hi, yes the spoils (what the English call them - I hope) or stort (Dutch, means dumps), and I guess dumps (USA)
are sometimes neat places to search. The ring is neat, I have found quite a few of those in the dumps over the
years, they are always appreciated when found. Not expensive rings, just rings for the common folk back then.
 

CRUSADER said:
I have heard of them but its the first post I have seen with one on :icon_thumright:
You do have it tough, having to chase JCBs around :P
Well then its great that I posted it, most of the time I think, ah.. I am sure that sort of thing has been posted already. But its a nice find for me. There were in the begin a couple more found there also, the one guy who I was talking with said it had vertical holes, but I am sure that was not correct because you could not skate because the leather would be on the ice, or maybe the had made a groove or something for the leather. By the way, the guys that I saw there I have met several times before. They search mostly with 5 brothers, a sister and also the mother (who provides refreshments and collects the finds, washes them). Great to see a family having fun.

Yea, you cannot find so much here on the fields, of course there are some nice things and nice coins on them, but mostly because of farmers pocket losses and sometimes the fields were used as dumps back then. Some of the fields in Friesland for instance were raised by importing trash (with ground, grasses, manure and that sort of stuff) from Amsterdam way back then (12th to 18th century), and although we did have luck there findings pretty good things back in the 80's/90's there is not much anymore coming off the fields. Just way too many searchers here nowadays, everyone got in the hobby and its hard now to find anything there, not impossible though. Just not like searching in England for sure.

Its also tough getting on the building sites now too (that is where I have found about 80% of my good finds in the past), too many people dig huge holes, loosly fill them in, and with all the rain here later the JCB's get stuck in the mud, also some hunters, if a signal is under a measuring pole, remove the pole to get the find. Then they have to call in the surveyors again. The mess it up for us, things are pretty tight if you want to search building sites now, you just do not get permission for those reasons.
 

TnMountains said:
Interesting post. Looks like a great place to hunt. It is a shame they do not want anyone hunting the piles. Enjoyed the history of the bone skate as well. I had only seen the ice gliders from the Dakota's posted by larson over in artifacts :thumbsup:
Yes the piles of dirt are mostly off limits nowadays, just like the building sites. Sometimes they do have their reasons for doing that. In this case the archaeological service had employed a couple of people to search the ground when it came out of the ditches on the streets, also the archaeological people searched the ground when it came out. Then the ground was transported to the dump. Maybe they wanted to search it more later for finds.

But really if you really look at what archeology really means and why people do it, its because they want to know the history of the town, and know what happened back then, how people lived and such. But that is usually done by digging down step by step and recording everything in the period (era) when it was lost. The digs, or the dirt from the fields is almost always transported to a dump where they pile it up to dry (North Holland has always wet soil) and reuse (cleaning it up first). The finds don't really mean anything anymore to the history, not knowing the depth of them. The environment here is a big deal, and I guess also that is necessary here because this is a tiny land. I have helped as a volunteer in many digs, but when they started banning metal detecting back then I stopped.

For instance these piles in the begin (they don't come there anymore and chase you off) still contained archaeological finds for sure, they don't find everything. But on the other hand this dirt is just dug out with a tractor, not layer by layer. They are only finds, and don't have any bearing on archeology history.
 

shaun7 said:
Congrats Earl :icon_thumleft:

I know you're running out of "wanted's".
Well yes Shaun your are right about that. Although I have three showcases at home, they are all full, and including all the boxes in the storage it is a huge collection. Its rare most of the time to find something new (that I don't have) for the showcases anymore, too many searchers and many places off limits. Mainly I guess because the stuff you find is worth quite a bit now, and there are many unemployed people who have taken up the hobby to survive (although here in Holland that is really not the case, everyone gets enough money to live on from the state if you are unemployed) or to have a bit extra to spend. Its not that way in some countries I know, like the USA and UK, where the help is much less.

I really ran out of "wanted" things years ago, so when I find something it takes the places in the showcases of more modern stuff. I don't even look at anything later than 1700 anymore, it has to be at least from the 17th century to make the cases, and most of the time I find the same object, so the best one gets to be put in the case. I have to rotate the stuff several times each year, just to let visitors see everything. Its tough to search anymore.... especially at my age and the cold weather , it used to be easier.
 

Michiganne said:
Excellent relics! :icon_thumright: Thanks for sharing the pics and history on the skates. What would such a tiny lock be used for?

HH
Well that is a good question, I really don't know. If I guess however, I would think a dairy or something like that. I used to hate history in school back in California when I was gr owning up, but love it now; every find is history of course and someone had it centuries before in their hand. I am sure the most were mad about losing the object.
 

Thanks everyone for your messages, I enjoy sharing any history behind the finds, they make life back then more understandable. When I started to hunt I only found or wanted to find coins, but after finding a lot of them I began to understand that they were not personal, coins had changed hands many many times before getting lost. Then I began to start looking and trying to understand the relics I was finding, and they became more interesting than the coins. I never even research the coins anymore, just too many; but relics are important now. A lot of them were personal objects, and meant something to people, they kept them much much longer than a coin. And coins are coins after all, we know what they are. On the other hand I do find many relics that I just don't know what it is, or what it was used for.

That makes it interesting, trying to find that out. I guess over the years I still have a number of objects/relics than no one really knows what they are, or what they were used for. Its great when I do find out, that makes the research enjoyable.
 

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