7 Things I Am More Concerned About Than a Terrorist Attack

[DeepseekerADS]

I Don?t Fear a Terrorist Attack ?

What I am doing as a result of the new US government terrorist attack alert? Absolutely nothing.

The chance of a terrorist striking me is less than .000,000,0001%. However, there are things I am real concerned about:

1. Walking the streets late at night, for fear of being mugged by desperate, poorly educated public school youth, who are prevented from getting First Step jobs because of minimum wage laws.

2. Obamacare–which will do nothing but introduce socialism to the medical sector and ultimately result in declining life expectancy in the U.S.

3. The growing surveillance state. Edward Snowden was very correct when he pointed out that what we have is a turnkey tyranny/spying state. The switch hasn’t been turned on in a fashion that impacts most of us, yet. But, it is a switch that can be turned on at any time.

4. Crony capitalist/government deals that suffocate the free market system and put more power in the hands of crony capitalists, who feed more and more off the state.

5. Active operations by government to silence whistleblowers, and other exposers of government activities (See: Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden, Julian Assange), so that it becomes more difficult to understand what the government is up to.

6. Federal Reserve money printing that can explode into very strong inflation at anytime.

7. Federal Reserve money printing which results in a manipulated economy that causes the economy to go into cyclical manic-depressive states.

These are all very real dangers created by the state. When the state warns us of a potential terrorist attack, keep in mind what the state is doing to us on a daily basis–things that have a very real impact on our daily lives. The state is much more threatening to us than the less than .000,000,0001% chance that we will be directly impacted by a terrorist attack.

Here’s my alert: FEAR THE STATE, IT IS ATTACKING US NOW.

 

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[Peyton Manning]

seven things I am more concerned about than a terrorist attack:

1. a beer shortage
2. a beer price jump
3. losing my bottle opener
4. electricity going out on my beer fridge
5. developing an allergy to beer
6. not finding beer in cans for my beach vacation
7. finding a gold coin in the sand and dropping my beer out of excitement

 

[Red James Cash]

keep in mind what the state is doing to us on a daily basis–things that have a very real impact on our daily lives. The state is much more threatening to us than the less than .000,000,0001% chance that we will be directly impacted by a terrorist attack.

Here’s my alert: FEAR THE STATE, IT IS ATTACKING US NOW.

The state and terrorist.....1+1=1.Theyre all one and the same.

 

[Edward1976]

I agree with a lot of what you said, but a question: how is the Affordable Healthcare Act going to lower life expectancy?

 

[jerseyben]

I agree with a lot of what you said, but a question: how is the Affordable Healthcare Act going to lower life expectancy?

and I will add to it by asking how people are not able to get jobs due to minimum wage laws?

 

[bevo]

because the health care will be sub-par.

 

[Red James Cash]

because the health care will be sub-par.

And thats only if you qualify for medical attention

 

[bevo]

tea party members need not apply.

 

[Red James Cash]

Most likely if youre over a certain age.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Totally agree Deepseaker. I have not a single fear of an external terrorist.....I have great fear of the attack on our freedoms done daily by our current government..

I would rather die in a terrorist bomb attack then to willingly give up my freedoms to a government using fear of terrorist attack as an excuse to strip our rights and freedoms away.

That is my fear,........

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[austin]

seven things I am more concerned about than a terrorist attack:

1. a beer shortage
2. a beer price jump
3. losing my bottle opener
4. electricity going out on my beer fridge
5. developing an allergy to beer
6. not finding beer in cans for my beach vacation
7. finding a gold coin in the sand and dropping my beer out of excitement

Now this really makes sense and is indeed something to worry about. Fine work SIR, Thomas Jefferson could not have been more eloquent...

 

[Edward1976]

Well, considering that today we only have private health care, which can 86 you from coverage because of pre-existing conditions, and the best hospitals in the world, I'd say anything would be a step up from that. Will they shunt you into sub-par health care? No of course not, that's Alex Jones speaking. Do you need to participate in Obamacare? Of course not, it's aimed at the indignant and for preventative care. Before you scream out that I'm a commie pinko give us all some proof that I'm wrong about this, and I don't mean from a website that also advertises survival seeds and AR-15 clips and gold survival coins (made in China). Give us some real proof of the evils of the Affordable Health care Act. I also don't understand if this works in every other first world nation why it would fail here.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Well, considering that today we only have private health care, which can 86 you from coverage because of pre-existing conditions, and the best hospitals in the world, I'd say anything would be a step up from that. Will they shunt you into sub-par health care? No of course not, that's Alex Jones speaking. Do you need to participate in Obamacare? Of course not, it's aimed at the indignant and for preventative care. Before you scream out that I'm a commie pinko give us all some proof that I'm wrong about this, and I don't mean from a website that also advertises survival seeds and AR-15 clips and gold survival coins (made in China). Give us some real proof of the evils of the Affordable Health care Act. I also don't understand if this works in every other first world nation why it would fail here.

Edward, I have answwer this before... It is NOT working in every other country. What is the average wait time in Canada for surgery, what is the average wait time in England for surgery, If I need both eyes opperated on again how long woul I have to wait in Canada or England and how long do I have to wait here....... Answer is simple, here less than 10 daus, in Canada or England 3 to 4 months, excuse me if I do not want to walk around blind waiting months to have cataract surgery.

As I stated before, living in Missouri I had a room mate who was Canadian, his father needed surgery, he gave up waiting for it in Canada and came to America and had the surgery done. What did he think of your socialist health care there? HE HATED IT. He much preferred the health care we have here, why is that, it is because you can get the the work needed done with out waiting forever to get it done.....

IT IS NOT WORKING IN EVERY OTHER FIRST WORLD NATION! IT IS BROKE........!

You want socialist health care, go to Canada and wait at least 4 months to have the surgery or even see a specialist, then wait another 4 months to have the surgery after seeeing the specialist.

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[TD="class: dottedBottomLine, colspan: 2"]CALGARY, AB—Patients face a median wait of 17.7 weeks for surgical and other therapeutic treatments in Canada, down from 19.0 weeks in 2011, according to the 22nd annual edition of Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, released today by the Fraser Institute, Canada’s leading public policy think-tank.
On a national basis, median wait times have hovered between 16 and 19 weeks since 2000, following a marked deterioration in wait times during the 1990s when surgical waits grew steadily from 9.3 weeks in 1993 to 14 weeks in 1999. This year’s median wait of 17.7 weeks is 91 per cent longer than in 1993.
“While wait times have improved since last year, Canadians are still forced to wait more than four months, on average, for medically necessary treatment. Physicians, not to mention patients, consider this unreasonable,” said Nadeem Esmail, Fraser Institute senior fellow and co-author of the report.
“The existing system is broken. Even monumental increases in government health spending have failed to reduce wait times over the past decade. Equally troubling is the fact that Canadians face some of the longest waits for medical treatment in the developed world.”
The Waiting Your Turn report, which is based on a national survey of physicians, measures the wait times between referral by a general practitioner and consultation with a specialist, the times between seeing the specialist and receiving elective treatment, and the total wait times from GP referral to elective treatment.
According to the report, wait times between 2011 and 2012 decreased in both the delay between referral by a general practitioner to consultation with a specialist (dropping to 8.5 weeks from 9.5 weeks in 2011), and the delay between an appointment with a specialist and receiving treatment (dropping slightly to 9.3 weeks from 9.5 weeks in 2011).
The report notes that in 2012, the average wait for an appointment with a specialist after being referred by a general practitioner was 129 per cent longer than in 1993, and 65 per cent longer to receive treatment after seeing a specialist.
Total waiting time by province
Ontario has the shortest total wait time (the wait between referral by a general practitioner and receiving treatment) among all provinces at 14.9 weeks, up from 14.3 weeks in 2011. Quebec has the second-shortest total wait time at 16.6 weeks, down from 19.9 weeks. British Columbia ranks third at 17.0 weeks, down from 19.3 weeks, and Alberta fourth at 20.7 weeks, down from 21.1 weeks last year.
In Saskatchewan, the median wait time fell to 23.1 weeks from 29 weeks, while Manitoba dropped to 23.2 weeks from 25 weeks in 2011. Newfoundland and Labrador recorded the next-shortest wait at 26.8 weeks, rising from 22.8 weeks, while Nova Scotia fell to 28.1 weeks from 29 and New Brunswick vaulted to 35.1 weeks from 27.5 last year.
The first wait: Between general practitioner and specialist consultation
The provinces with the shortest wait times between referral by a general practitioner to appointment with a specialist are British Columbia (7.2 weeks), Quebec (7.3 weeks), and Manitoba (7.8 weeks).
The longest waits for consultation with a specialist are in New Brunswick (22.6 weeks), Prince Edward Island (16.9 weeks), and Newfoundland and Labrador (15 weeks).
The second wait: Between specialist consultation and treatment
The wait time between specialist appointment and treatment, the second stage of waiting, is the lowest in Ontario (7.0 weeks), Quebec (9.3 weeks) and British Columbia (9.8 weeks).
The longest waits are found in Nova Scotia (17.6 weeks), Manitoba (15.4 weeks), and New Brunswick (12.5 weeks).
Waiting by specialty nationwide
Among the various specialties, the shortest total waits (between referral from a GP and treatment) are for medical oncology (4.1 weeks), radiation oncology (4.5 weeks), and elective cardiovascular surgery (7.6 weeks).
Patients waited longest between a GP referral and orthopedic surgery (39.6 weeks), plastic surgery (31.5 weeks), and neurosurgery (26.6 weeks).
Number of procedures for which people are waiting
Across all 10 provinces, people were waiting for an estimated 870,462 procedures in 2012.
Assuming that each person waits for only one procedure, 2.5 per cent of Canadians were waiting for medical treatment in 2012, which varies from a low of 1.9 per cent in Ontario to a high of 6.1 per cent in Nova Scotia.
“Despite provincial wait times reduction strategies and levels of health spending that are high both historically and internationally, it is clear that patients in Canada continue to wait too long to receive medically necessary treatment,” Esmail said.
“It’s time our governments embraced meaningful health policy reforms to give Canadians the prompt, high-quality health care they deserve and are already paying for.”

Average surgical wait 17.7 weeks in Canada compared to 9.3 weeks in 1993 | Fraser Institute


England


In June there were 155,439 people who had been waiting longer than 18 weeks to be seen in hospital after being referred by their GP, compared to 143,337 in May.

It is the first time there has been a month on month increase in the number of patients breaching the 18-week waiting time standard since July 2011.

The number waiting for more than a year also increased from 3,302 in May to 3,500 in June.

Officials said the 'blip' was due to the two extra bank holidays in June for the Queen's Diamond Jubilee, however others raised concerns that financial constraints on the NHS were beginning to have an impact.

Fears have been raised over rationing of treatments, such as cataract operations, and Labour have warned that waiting times for various types of surgery are increasing.



NHS waiting times rise for first time in a year: official figures - Telegraph
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[Edward1976]

Let's find a Canadian here who can back this up. You're a moderator, you know anyone from Canada who can back this up? I have no doubt you knew someone who had a bad experience with socialised medicine, but I'd like to see a Brit or Canadian who said they'd rather have all-private health care than to have the option of pubic health care.

 

[Gold Maven]

It's hard to know what to believe, there is so much out there on both sides of the health care issue.

I watched Michael Moore's Sicko, and if you can believe him, France is rated first, and the US is fifty-something.

Even if half of his "documentary" is bs, ours still has a lot of problems.

 

[Jim in Idaho]

Well, considering that today we only have private health care, which can 86 you from coverage because of pre-existing conditions, and the best hospitals in the world, I'd say anything would be a step up from that. Will they shunt you into sub-par health care? No of course not, that's Alex Jones speaking. Do you need to participate in Obamacare? Of course not, it's aimed at the indignant and for preventative care. Before you scream out that I'm a commie pinko give us all some proof that I'm wrong about this, and I don't mean from a website that also advertises survival seeds and AR-15 clips and gold survival coins (made in China). Give us some real proof of the evils of the Affordable Health care Act. I also don't understand if this works in every other first world nation why it would fail here.

Ok, lets take it from the top:
1. Pre-existing conditions...you obviously think it's fair for someone NOT to contribute to the healthcare system until they are sick, and need help. To me, that's pretty slimy. Somebody refuses to help others, but then expects help from them....pure socialism
2. Declining quality of healthcare... It has already become apparent that many doctors are retiring early, because of Obamacare. That alone will decrease the quality of care. Throw in the fact that millions more people will be asking for "free" care, and it's obvious that the quality can't remain high, or that wait times will dramatically increase. At some point, fewer people will pursue a career as doctors.....reducing quality again.
3. Forced to use Obamacare.... since many businesses can't afford the increased premiums caused by covering the freeloaders, they are reducing the hours their employees work, so they don't have to cover them. Those people will be forced to use Obamacare. Also, the premium cost for businesses is about 5X the "penalty" for not providing health insurance, so many businesses will simply stop offering coverage and pay the penalty. The employees of these businesses will then be forced into Obamacare. In the end Obamacare will probably be the death of employer-provided healthcare in the US. We will end up just like England, Canada, etc. Even if businesses keep providing health insurance for their employees, the increased costs will just be tacked onto the price of their goods and services, which will end up being paid by their customers....which means higher prices for all of us, and decreased economic activity.
Jim

 

[jerseyben]

Ok, lets take it from the top:
1. Pre-existing conditions...you obviously think it's fair for someone NOT to contribute to the healthcare system until they are sick, and need help. To me, that's pretty slimy. Somebody refuses to help others, but then expects help from them....pure socialism
2. Declining quality of healthcare... It has already become apparent that many doctors are retiring early, because of Obamacare. That alone will decrease the quality of care. Throw in the fact that millions more people will be asking for "free" care, and it's obvious that the quality can't remain high, or that wait times will dramatically increase. At some point, fewer people will pursue a career as doctors.....reducing quality again.
3. Forced to use Obamacare.... since many businesses can't afford the increased premiums caused by covering the freeloaders, they are reducing the hours their employees work, so they don't have to cover them. Those people will be forced to use Obamacare. Also, the premium cost for businesses is about 5X the "penalty" for not providing health insurance, so many businesses will simply stop offering coverage and pay the penalty. The employees of these businesses will then be forced into Obamacare. In the end Obamacare will probably be the death of employer-provided healthcare in the US. We will end up just like England, Canada, etc. Even if businesses keep providing health insurance for their employees, the increased costs will just be tacked onto the price of their goods and services, which will end up being paid by their customers....which means higher prices for all of us, and decreased economic activity.
Jim

1. No idea what you are talking about.

2. Your argument doesn't hold water. Our population is increasing, not declining. Not sure how you are assuming that fewer people will pursue a career as a doctor. To me, I see this as an opportunity for new young doctors to break into the field. New, young doctors with training in 21st century technology and medical techniques thereby increasing quality of care.

3. Hopefully employers will do the right thing instead of taking the sleazy way out. Hopefully employers will see their employees as people and as an asset to the business and not just as labor hours. I hope businesses act responsibly and have some pride and respect for their fellow citizens instead of being overtaken by greed.

 

[GMD52]

If our population in increasing, then why are school population declining? Are'nt children the means by which a increase in population is judged? And before you make the remark about more being home-schooled , and that's the decline.....Not that many on a per-capita avg.

My fear with O-care is that the mentality now is against the elderly, we in their eyes have long served our purpose, and now only drain the system....Mr. O better realize that in less than 3 years he too will be retired, and he will be a bigger drain of my tax dollears than I , or you would be for decades,

Deep, once again total agreement on your points, to bad many read them with a jaundiced eye.....Gary

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Let's find a Canadian here who can back this up. You're a moderator, you know anyone from Canada who can back this up? I have no doubt you knew someone who had a bad experience with socialised medicine, but I'd like to see a Brit or Canadian who said they'd rather have all-private health care than to have the option of pubic health care.

Wife has family visiting us at this very moment from Canada and they say the same thing, they hate the health care in Canada, it takes too long to talk to a doctor or to schedule a hosipital visit. Did your read the links, have you done any research on line.....? The only part of the health care any of them liked is the cost of the scripts...... I have no desire to wait in line 3 months to talk to a specialist and then wait another 3 months to get surgery scheduled....... All of this can be verified on line....

 

[GMD52]

If the care is so good in Canada, why do Canadians travel south to have major proceedures done. UVM, and the and Flethcher- Allen Hospital have many Canadian patients, why is that?