7 Ender dangling carrot

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Picked up some boxes today. First two produced a total of 2 40%ers and a '45-S Walker. I opened 6 rolls out of the 3rd box and didn't find anything. Then I noticed a reverse Franklin ender. I started checking the box for enders and found a total of 2 reverse 'D' Benders, a '65 ender, a '68 ender and 3 reverse Kennedy enders for a total of 7. One of the Franklin's and reverse Kennedy's are on the same roll, my first double ender. The 7 year old keeps asking if I think it's a solid roll? Anyways, the 8 year old is at a slumber party so I won't open the box until tomorrow. Open for guesses. Will post results tomorrow afternoon.
 

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An ender tease like this deserves a picture! 7 enders is pretty amazing. I'll say 10 x 90% and 25-30 x 40%....hopefully I am wrong and you get more!

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Bigheed
 

That is a huge dangling carrot!

I had a box last week with three Kennedy enders, so by the law of averages I expected to have an awesome box with plus/minus 30 silvers. Ended up with 7 including the three enders, you just never know!

I'll guess 1 Walker, 4 Franklins, 5 90% Ken, 18 40% Ken. Good luck Twitch!
 

Also hope I am wrong but I had a 7 box ender about 2 months ago. So I will guess same as mine
5 90s
17 40s
Goodluck and enjoy opening them with little guy(s)
 

Both BigHeed and Avago were pretty close.

Totals:
1 Walker
5 Franklins (tied for most in a box)
6 '64's (most ever in a box)
12 total 90%ers is the most ever
22 40%ers
34 total silvers is most ever in a box

All 6 of the ender rolls had additional silvers.

One non-ender roll had 7 total silvers, '50, '64, '64, '65, '67, '68, '68 - the most ever silvers for me in a MWR.

Obviously a very good box but disappointing that 7 enders didn't lead to a greater score. I'm almost certain that all of the silver was in the last 20 or 25 rolls so maybe this week's boxes have the rest of the score. I'm excited to see what comes.

Also noteworthy that up until July I was finding more Walkers than Franklins, but that has reversed lately and now I'm finding more Franklins.
 

Also the '68 ender roll had two '67's in it and a 2000 Ecuadorian half.

The roll with 7 silvers weighed 230.55 grams.
 

Nice score. Enders to me mean nothing more than a guarantee of the silver you see. Everyone used to say that for every Ender expect 10 silvers. In my experience this seems to only be kinda true if you have 10 plus Enders in a box. Anything less than 10 and it's really not the case. I have had a box with 3 Enders only produce those 3 I have had a box with 4 Enders produce 6 and a box with no Enders produce 18.
 

Nice score. Enders to me mean nothing more than a guarantee of the silver you see. Everyone used to say that for every Ender expect 10 silvers. In my experience this seems to only be kinda true if you have 10 plus Enders in a box. Anything less than 10 and it's really not the case. I have had a box with 3 Enders only produce those 3 I have had a box with 4 Enders produce 6 and a box with no Enders produce 18.

Agree, every 10th silver should be an ender, but every ender does not mean 10 silvers. At some point the law of large numbers takes over. I have never had more than 3 enders before so I was hoping 7 was large enough. I'm excited to see if I catch the other part of this find in this weeks boxes.
 

This week i had a 2 ender box produce 8 silver and a no ender box produce 30. I think enders are just more exciting to us, its hard to put a ratio on it. In my experience, 75% of the time it means you will get one or two other silvers per ender.
 

Agree, every 10th silver should be an ender, but every ender does not mean 10 silvers. At some point the law of large numbers takes over. I have never had more than 3 enders before so I was hoping 7 was large enough. I'm excited to see if I catch the other part of this find in this weeks boxes.

Hasn't anyone ever taken a statistics class before? If your sample size (# boxes) is large enough, the enders (on average) will VERY precisely represent the number of silvers in the box to the tune of 1:10. Of course your individual numbers will most likely not be what you would expect because none of us does enough volume to represent all the boxes in our area. If we all kept stats and threw all our #s on a stead sheet, we would have very close to 10 silvers per ender as a group.
 

Hasn't anyone ever taken a statistics class before? If your sample size (# boxes) is large enough, the enders (on average) will VERY precisely represent the number of silvers in the box to the tune of 1:10. Of course your individual numbers will most likely not be what you would expect because none of us does enough volume to represent all the boxes in our area. If we all kept stats and threw all our #s on a stead sheet, we would have very close to 10 silvers per ender as a group.

There is nothing simple about this statistical study. Because the population size is unknown, you are actually treating your sample as a mini population - which is fine, but takes the simplicity away. You are really doing a series of independent yes/no experiments to determine a success probability. For these mini studies, your population is very small (population is the current set of boxes being searched) and the sample strategy is to observe 2 coins for every 20 - you look at all of the "enders".

The intention is to use the observed ender distribution as the basis for a binomial test of statistical significance (each silver ender is considered a "success"). However, because the population is not subject to re-randomization and replacement, it is actually a hypergeometric distribution that is being observed. If the population were large enough, the hypergeometric distribution would approach the binomial. Determining that convergence point is an exercise left for CRH'er.
 

If you ever are lucky enough to get boxes like these below, you will believe statistics. The top box had about 70 enders, it produced around 700 silvers.The bottom box had 65 enders, it produced 652 silvers.

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If you ever are lucky enough to get boxes like these below, you will believe statistics. The top box had about 70 enders, it produced around 700 silvers.The bottom box had 65 enders, it produced 652 silvers.

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<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1077628"/>

HOLY SHIZZ
Really 700+ & 600+?
when were those boxes hunted?

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just keep stacking, just keep stacking, stacking stacking stacking
 

HOLY SHIZZ
Really 700+ & 600+?
when were those boxes hunted?

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just keep stacking, just keep stacking, stacking stacking stacking

In the summer of 2008. Good old days for CRHers! Bad time for some regular folks who lost jobs.

The top box credited to another member here "Omegaman". The bottom box belongs to myself. I also had a sister box which produced 634.
 

In the summer of 2008. Good old days for CRHers! Bad time for some regular folks who lost jobs.

The top box credited to another member here "Omegaman". The bottom box belongs to myself. I also had a sister box which produced 634.

Man dont tell me that- I had an inclination back in 07 to start buying ag & au but that thought was fleeting- I dont know for sure if I wouldve found crh back then but ugh the thought just makes me sick lol

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just keep stacking, just keep stacking, stacking stacking stacking
 

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