54 caliber brass cartridge

[alabama11]

This the third cw piece I found in a yard while looking for the spanish american war camp.
This cartridge has a dent in the center of the base where a firing pin or hammer hit it. Maybe someone will know what type of rifle it was based on the info.

Thanks for looking.

 

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[civilman1]

Is there an actual primer in the base?? Need to see a picture of the base.

 

[alabama11]

There is no primer. Found more today. Posting soon. Thank you.

 

[alabama11]

I will try to photo the base. ��

 

[Davers]

Yea on those there should be a firing pin mark ( just or almost like you would see on a 22 LR case ) 'Right on the edge '.

Later Cousin. J.

 

[Tdog]

Yea on those there should be a firing pin mark ( just or almost like you would see on a 22 LR case ) 'Right on the edge '.

Hence, a rimfire.

 

[alabama11]

Here is the base photo

 

[Davers]

I may have missed the firing pin mark but I don't see one.

If it's not fired it was most likely IMHO used as a fire starter .

Cool Civil War Save .

 

[civil_war22]

I see the center punch area, but no rimfire strike. Maybe just the pic. Found lots of those, and wish I could find a whole one with the bullet, powder, and shell intact

 

[civilman1]

I see the center punch area, but no rimfire strike. Maybe just the pic. Found lots of those, and wish I could find a whole one with the bullet, powder, and shell intact

I know,in the other post the cartridge case looks like its longer than a Spencer Got me thinkin' now!!

 

[civil_war22]

I know,in the other post the cartridge case looks like its longer than a Spencer Got me thinkin' now!!

Maybe a Joslyn?

 

[civilman1]

Maybe a Joslyn?

That was the one and only choice I had left,very well could be.Need to find the brass length to make sure.

 

[civil_war22]

That was the one and only choice I had left,very well could be.Need to find the brass length to make sure.

Looks like about the right size

 

[Davers]

That was the one and only choice I had left,very well could be.Need to find the brass length to make sure.

I was thinking it 'may' be a .52 Sharps & Hankins ( bullet / cartridge } bullet # 's 124 and 125 in HOCWB&C or 50 cal Warner. ?

Like civilman1 stated , the brass length should answer your question .

Also if you can tell if the case is made a brass or Copper as the .52 S & H (# 124 in the book says it's case was made of copper).
GD

 

[alabama11]

The cartridge length is 1.75 iinches. Still finding more of them. Hoping for one with the lead in there.

 

[devldog]

Good luck Alabama11. Maybe there will be a whole one lying about.

 

[Davers]

The cartridge length is 1.75 iinches. Still finding more of them. Hoping for one with the lead in there.

Keep digging them , in my experience most 'Spencer ' Cartridges I have found were found with others , only on occasion do I come across one in the woods or when i least expect it .

I'm still thinking Spencer, as there was a-lot of them .

PS.
I been looking through my stuff and as soon as i find a nice complete Spencer ill get it off to you asap.

God Bless Jeff & your family.

 

[fyrffytr1]

Do any of them have a firing pin mark?

 

[devldog]

Nice find. I found a spot years ago and dug a spot about the size of 3 pizza pans in circumference and about 8 inches down. I dug quite a few Spencer Carbine bullet casings and the lead bullets. I did not find a whole bullet, but found one bullet with a portion of the casing still on the bullet. It was as if a Cavalryman was standing in this one spot firing away with his carbine. Strange. Hit the area hard and take your time and you may just be able to come across a whole carbine bullet. Best of luck to you.

 

[Davers]

Do any of them have a firing pin mark?

Looked in the picture A11 posted but could see none on that casing , i'm sure he will check them all.
GD