52nd gold from the pond but need help identifing it

[plymouthian12]

Sorry all I haven't posted in a long time. I have been out but guess been to lazy to post and way to busy but I do need help on this ring the pictures will explain it all any and all info will be great. its a 10k military ring with ,a 35, a machine gun,and the letters BN on the front. One side has the heraldic eagle and shield,the other side has 2 American flags a sword facing down going threw the numbers 12 thanks everyone for all your help
kent

 

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[Diggin Dave]

I did a quick Google search, military 35 bn machine gun, and came back with these links. Looks like the 35 bn was a British machine gun company. Cool find!

http://www.1914-1918.net/35div.htm

http://www.1914-1918.net/mg_units.htm

 

[Diggin Dave]

Also looks like a 12 on the side of the ring. In the second link I posted the 35th MG, listed as 12th division... and (BN) is battalion.

 

[plymouthian12]

inside the ring says Homer's Boston

 

[Diggin Dave]

Looks like Home r's jewelry store closed up in the 90's. In business for 108 years.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-8201393.html

 

[plymouthian12]

but why would it have been made here? but there is a boston in Lancashire England

 

[plymouthian12]

looks like American flags

 

[plymouthian12]

could he have been from the states

 

[plymouthian12]

And how fitting for memorial day weekend

 

[Diggin Dave]

There was a US Army 35th Infantry Division, National Guard Unit. I'm not a Military buff, maybe some other knowledgeable members can chime in. Yeah it's not likely that Homers of Boston made rings for the British, but not impossible. All the pieces seem to fit together with the British Military though...

 

[plymouthian12]

I think this might be it the only difference is the sword goes over the 1 and under the 2


Nickname: Plymouth Division
23rd, 24th, Infantry (Inf.)
12th Artillery (Art.)
34th, 36th Machine Gun (M. G.)
212th Engineers (Eng.)
Generals Commanding: Major - General Henry P. McCain (Aug. 20, 1918 - Jan. 31, 1919, from formation to disbandment)
Other Commanders: 23rd Infantry Brigade Commander: Brigadier - General John N. Hodges; 24th Infantry Brigade Commander: Brigadier - General John E. Woodward; 12th Field Artillery Brigade Commander: Brigadier - General G. R. Allen.
Sources:
Roster, Plymouth (12th) Division, Camp Devens, Massachusetts, November 30, 1918
Robinson, W.J.: Forging the Sword, The Story of Camp Devens, The Rumford Press, 1920, pp 115 - 159
Steve Zolla provides the above information on the 12th Division.
Not deployed. War ended.
Shoulder/Sleeve Insignia:

Graphic courtesy of Ernie Linek.​

Expanded Organization Chart for the 12th Division courtesy of Steve Zolla:23rd Infantry Brigade​ 36th Infantry (regulars) 73rd Infantry (draftees) 35th Machine Gun Battalion​

 

[time4me]

Super cool find Kent, and very fitting for Memorial Day weekend!

Try to find a military historian to take it to - they should be able to tell you exactly what you've got there.


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[plymouthian12]

sounds good

 

[Diggin Dave]

Pretty cool, awesome find!!

 

[Fitzwilk]

Very cool.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/77941958@N05/7356572434/

 

[lorraine]

Kent,

I am amazed at that ring find. I found one exactly like it a few years back.

It is a WW1 Army ring.. ( 12th) Plymouth division (35th Machine gun Battalion.) The division was stationed at Ft. Devens from Sept 1918 to January 1919. The men were supposed to go to France ( post war) , but an influenza epidemic broke out at the base and they were confined to the barracks.

I have the original roster of this Battalion; the Commanding Office was the great-great uncle of Senator John McCain.

If you would like more info on this ring, I'll send you a PM.

Here is a photo of the ring that I found; I hope that you do not mind me posting the pic on your thread of the one that I found, but I want you to see this extraordinary dual find.

Lorraine



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[Msbeepbeep]

Wow 2 of the same kind what are the chances!

 

[penzfan]

Amazing