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Hey folks it's that time again. I know the year is not over & my mom seems to be doing well after her surgery on her knee,so thinking I'll have a few more chances to get out before the years end. She's been staying with us since the surgery but she's ready to get back to her home maybe tomorrow. Anyway I'm kinda bored & have always posted each year my finds.This post will hold my best six....
The first & my coolest for me this year was the copper sheet pendant(#1) I've posted alot on it already but have a little to add with a map I found showing were the indian Manteo was born.Which is very close to were I found it & is why it keeps me thinking about it.If not his then very likely was from some of his tribe.Below is all the info on it.................& hope to get sometime one day to maybe have it analyzed for it's composition.
The post............
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,382859.0.html
http://www.nps.gov/history/history/online_books/jame1/moretti-langholtz/appendixa1.htm
http://www.virtualjamestown.org/paspahegh/copper.html
http://www.vacadsci.org/vjsArchives/v47/47-1/p9.pdf
http://www.preservationvirginia.org/rediscovery/page.php?page_id=230
Movie/video.....
http://video.unctv.org/video/2149619983/#
Copper’s Significance in the Middle Atlantic at Contact
The value of copper in protohistoric Carolina and Chesapeake
Algonquian society cannot be overstated. It was no ordinary universal equivalent. These Native Americans publicly demonstrated their status by the copper they wore. Pierced copper pieces hung around the neck or on the arms and distinguished indigenous “Noble Men” from the “meaner sort”
(Quinn 1955:103). Elite Algonquian warriors received copper from their superiors in return for exceptional military service. Many of these tribes also frequently offered copper to their deities (Rountree 1989:133). In addition, the presence of copper in Chesapeake Algonquian burials served as a hierarchical distinction separating those individuals whose spirits were believed to live forever from others whose souls would expire following their corporeal death. Copper acquisition, display, and tribute ensured hegemonic gains and prevented the squandering of a person’s spiritual essence (Mallios 1998).
It both reflected and created status. There was no material good in Algonquian society that was superior or even equal in value to copper. The English learned quickly at Roanoke Island in the 1580s of the supreme value the local natives placed on copper alloys. Roanoke’s Ralph Lane reported to the Reverend Richard Hakluyt in a 1585 correspondence that for the local Algonquian population, “copper carieth ye price of all” (Quinn 1955:209).
Thirty years later, Jamestown’s John Smith noted that, “for a copper kettle. . . [the Powhatans] will sell you a whole Countrey”
(Barbour 1986 III:276). Contemporary playwrights George Chapman, Ben Johnson, and John Marston immortalized the value of copper as a trade good in early 17 th-century America
in their 1605
Eastward Ho. They wrote, “for as much red
copper as I can bring [to North America] I’ll have thrice the
weight in gold” (27-28). Lessons learned from the failed English
attempts at colonizing the Carolinas led the outfitters of
the Jamestown venture to insist that those aboard the
DiscovTHE
J
OURNAL OF THE JAMESTOWN
R
EDISCOVERY CENTER
V
OL. 2 JAN. 2004
Seth Mallios & Shane Emmett
“
Demand, Supply, and Elasticity in the Copper Trade at Early Jamestown”
http://apva.org/resource/jjrc/vol2/smtoc.html
ery
, the Godspeed, and the Susan Constant bring copper to the
Americas in the form of “10 seven-inch squares and 5 seveninch
circles, 20 six-inch circles and 10 six-inch circles, 40
four-inch squares and 20 four-inch circles, [and] 100 threeinch
squares” (Quinn 1977:432-34).
The Monacans, an indigenous group to the west of the
Powhatan chiefdom, played an important role in the copper
exchange of the Chesapeake. Although historical records
chronicled little of Powhatan/Monacan relations during the
16
th and 17th centuries, they indicated that when the English
arrived at Jamestown Island the Powhatans and Monacans
were adversaries. With no indigenous copper source in his
own territory, Chief Powhatan relied on exchange with natives
in the Great Lakes region, western North Carolina, and
nearby Monacan territory, all of whom tapped copper sources.
In 1607, the arrival of the English and of their many copper
goods gave Chief Powhatan an opportunity to rid himself of
his “political dependence” on antagonistic Monacan neighbors
(Hantman 1990:685). Abundant English copper could
free him from being indebted to the Monacans along his
western border. Powhatan could potentially bolster his intrachiefdom
power as well by controlling the flow of copper
within his territory.
Chesapeake Algonquians likely allowed English intrusions
into their homeland because of access to copper from apparently
amicable sources. The Europeans’ plentiful copper
stores gave the natives an opportunity to exchange with individuals
other than antagonistic neighbors. Coincidentally,
one of England’s goals in settling the Americas was to free
itself from material dependence on nearby European rivals.
Hakluyt discussed in his writings an English desire to avoid
economic restraints in 1578. He asserted that, “[England]
should not depend on Spain for oil, sacks, resins, oranges,
lemons, Spanish skins, c. Nor upon France for woad [wood],
basalt, and Gascoyne wines, nor on Eastland for flax, pitch, tar,
masts, & . . . we should, by our own industries and the benefits
of the soil there [the Americas], cheaply purchase oils, wines,
salt, fruits, pitch, tar, flax, hemp, masts, boards, fish, gold, silver,
copper, tallow, hides, and many commodities” ( Jehlen and
Warner 1997:58). During this time, England was economically
a colony of the European continent (Wallerstein 1974 I:228).
Just as the English came to America in the hopes of freeing
themselves from economic dependence on political adversaries,
they unknowingly offered the Algonquians a chance for the
same sort of relief.
The first & my coolest for me this year was the copper sheet pendant(#1) I've posted alot on it already but have a little to add with a map I found showing were the indian Manteo was born.Which is very close to were I found it & is why it keeps me thinking about it.If not his then very likely was from some of his tribe.Below is all the info on it.................& hope to get sometime one day to maybe have it analyzed for it's composition.
The post............
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,382859.0.html
http://www.nps.gov/history/history/online_books/jame1/moretti-langholtz/appendixa1.htm
http://www.virtualjamestown.org/paspahegh/copper.html
http://www.vacadsci.org/vjsArchives/v47/47-1/p9.pdf
http://www.preservationvirginia.org/rediscovery/page.php?page_id=230
Movie/video.....
http://video.unctv.org/video/2149619983/#
Copper’s Significance in the Middle Atlantic at Contact
The value of copper in protohistoric Carolina and Chesapeake
Algonquian society cannot be overstated. It was no ordinary universal equivalent. These Native Americans publicly demonstrated their status by the copper they wore. Pierced copper pieces hung around the neck or on the arms and distinguished indigenous “Noble Men” from the “meaner sort”
(Quinn 1955:103). Elite Algonquian warriors received copper from their superiors in return for exceptional military service. Many of these tribes also frequently offered copper to their deities (Rountree 1989:133). In addition, the presence of copper in Chesapeake Algonquian burials served as a hierarchical distinction separating those individuals whose spirits were believed to live forever from others whose souls would expire following their corporeal death. Copper acquisition, display, and tribute ensured hegemonic gains and prevented the squandering of a person’s spiritual essence (Mallios 1998).
It both reflected and created status. There was no material good in Algonquian society that was superior or even equal in value to copper. The English learned quickly at Roanoke Island in the 1580s of the supreme value the local natives placed on copper alloys. Roanoke’s Ralph Lane reported to the Reverend Richard Hakluyt in a 1585 correspondence that for the local Algonquian population, “copper carieth ye price of all” (Quinn 1955:209).
Thirty years later, Jamestown’s John Smith noted that, “for a copper kettle. . . [the Powhatans] will sell you a whole Countrey”
(Barbour 1986 III:276). Contemporary playwrights George Chapman, Ben Johnson, and John Marston immortalized the value of copper as a trade good in early 17 th-century America
in their 1605
Eastward Ho. They wrote, “for as much red
copper as I can bring [to North America] I’ll have thrice the
weight in gold” (27-28). Lessons learned from the failed English
attempts at colonizing the Carolinas led the outfitters of
the Jamestown venture to insist that those aboard the
DiscovTHE
J
OURNAL OF THE JAMESTOWN
R
EDISCOVERY CENTER
V
OL. 2 JAN. 2004
Seth Mallios & Shane Emmett
“
Demand, Supply, and Elasticity in the Copper Trade at Early Jamestown”
http://apva.org/resource/jjrc/vol2/smtoc.html
ery
, the Godspeed, and the Susan Constant bring copper to the
Americas in the form of “10 seven-inch squares and 5 seveninch
circles, 20 six-inch circles and 10 six-inch circles, 40
four-inch squares and 20 four-inch circles, [and] 100 threeinch
squares” (Quinn 1977:432-34).
The Monacans, an indigenous group to the west of the
Powhatan chiefdom, played an important role in the copper
exchange of the Chesapeake. Although historical records
chronicled little of Powhatan/Monacan relations during the
16
th and 17th centuries, they indicated that when the English
arrived at Jamestown Island the Powhatans and Monacans
were adversaries. With no indigenous copper source in his
own territory, Chief Powhatan relied on exchange with natives
in the Great Lakes region, western North Carolina, and
nearby Monacan territory, all of whom tapped copper sources.
In 1607, the arrival of the English and of their many copper
goods gave Chief Powhatan an opportunity to rid himself of
his “political dependence” on antagonistic Monacan neighbors
(Hantman 1990:685). Abundant English copper could
free him from being indebted to the Monacans along his
western border. Powhatan could potentially bolster his intrachiefdom
power as well by controlling the flow of copper
within his territory.
Chesapeake Algonquians likely allowed English intrusions
into their homeland because of access to copper from apparently
amicable sources. The Europeans’ plentiful copper
stores gave the natives an opportunity to exchange with individuals
other than antagonistic neighbors. Coincidentally,
one of England’s goals in settling the Americas was to free
itself from material dependence on nearby European rivals.
Hakluyt discussed in his writings an English desire to avoid
economic restraints in 1578. He asserted that, “[England]
should not depend on Spain for oil, sacks, resins, oranges,
lemons, Spanish skins, c. Nor upon France for woad [wood],
basalt, and Gascoyne wines, nor on Eastland for flax, pitch, tar,
masts, & . . . we should, by our own industries and the benefits
of the soil there [the Americas], cheaply purchase oils, wines,
salt, fruits, pitch, tar, flax, hemp, masts, boards, fish, gold, silver,
copper, tallow, hides, and many commodities” ( Jehlen and
Warner 1997:58). During this time, England was economically
a colony of the European continent (Wallerstein 1974 I:228).
Just as the English came to America in the hopes of freeing
themselves from economic dependence on political adversaries,
they unknowingly offered the Algonquians a chance for the
same sort of relief.
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