2 Whatsits dug from a late 1700s to 1800s field

[CoilToTheSoil]

First, a presumably lead disk with markings on front and back. Any thoughts?

Second a brass or copper ball with a shank. Bell jingly thingy? Button?















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[G.A.P.metal]

First is a lead bale seal.
Second is a very old button.
Gary

 

[Carolina Tom]

G.A.P. is all over the lead seal.

The second one is a ball button. If it has a hole near the shank, might be a blow hole button.

GL brother!

 

[CoilToTheSoil]

Man, yall are good hah. No hole at the top of the button.

Thanks!

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[CRUSADER]

First is a lead bale seal.
Second is a very old button.
Gary

Agreed Lead Bag/bale Seal

Civvy Ball/Globe Button circa 1850s

 

[DCMatt]

Agreed Lead Bag/bale Seal

Civvy Ball/Globe Button circa 1850s

Also worn by Federal Zouave units in the American Civil War as well as some pre-war militia units.

 

[CRUSADER]

Also worn by Federal Zouave units in the American Civil War as well as some pre-war militia units.

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But that's grown to Urban Myth status & comes with a massive health warning. Only clear back-marks will tell you either way & probabilities on my side.