2 neat Iron finds from 1812 Barn need IDd

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2 neat Iron finds from 1812 Barn need ID'd

I found these both at the same barn I have been hunting here in PA that was built in 1812. My ruler is missing so I used a pocket lighter for size. I am almost sure the 2nd is some part of a lock but could be wrong. Your mission Treasurenetters should you choose to accept it is, ID my finds, and possible period they are from. Thanks HH!

 

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Second item looks like a "bearer loop" from a horse saddle. I found almost the same one last year. If I remember they date to the late 1800's