18th Century Mansion Spoon Find today, but what period? Thanks for your help

[WHK621]

Found this spoon today hunting the 18th century mansion near what appears to be an outdoor kitchen, (or what's left of one). I found a rock wall cemented in a semi circle but was not complete. I could not picture what this was but I know it was not an outdoor fireplace. Perhaps a landscape piece of somekind or and outdoor kitchen of some kind, but I didn't think this was common place in the late 18th century as the mansion was build in 1774, but I found the bowl end of a spoon about 5" down about 20 feet from this structure. I would just like any one's help in dating this item. It is a pointed spoon that is larger than a modern tablespoon and beveled around the edges. The back side has a shell design but no other markings.

Thanks in advance for your help with this.

 

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[Felinepeachy]

Serving spoon. All I can tell you is that the shell back on drop and heel of the bowl was most popular in the King George I, II and III era. The timeframe would be between 1714-1820. Great find!!

Similar to this one but not the same.

 

[BuckleBoy]

And this one appears to be Exactly the same (lower right of the photo below). One of the members of my team recovered this pewter spoon fragment on a hunt on Tuesday on a colonial site in Indiana. Due to the other relics found at the site, I'd say that this one is probably on the newer end of the date range that Peachy listed above. Of course, there's no telling how long a set of dinnerware was in a family's possession...




Regards,


Buckleboy

 

[WHK621]

Hello Peachy,

Thanks so much for your help with this. It's nice to see a match for a a shell design. I wish I had recovered the handle portion to see the markings. The group I'm helping restore this mansion I'm hunting will be very happy to know this piece has a chance of being with the original family from 1774-1820. The house was sold to several different owners after that time and was cited as "historic" and protected in 2001.

Thanks again!

--Bill--

 

[WHK621]

Hello BuckleBoy and thanks for sharing one of you members team finds. Yes, I would agree that the spoon fragment is a dead on match to the one I found. I looked everywhere then gave up to post on this board. I like to do everything I can possibly do to identify these items first so as not to clutter this thread, but when that runs dry, it's amazing how much help is available when I post here. I've only been a member of TreasureNet for a short while and the people willing to help here are super great!

Thanks again for all your help!

Best Regards!

--Bill--

 

[Felinepeachy]

Keep looking. I find lots of flatware in pieces but the pieces are usually in close proximity to one another.

 

[WHK621]

Wow!

That's an impressive cache you have there! Thanks for posting. See the two other spoons I mentioned in my earlier email to you below. I woild like to know a little something about these if you care to take a crack at them.

Thanks! --Bill--

 

[Felinepeachy]

Hope you dont mind but I resized your pic so I could get a full view. I love them!!

 

[Monty]

I see an old lantern top where the wick goes through and part of a harmonica, pretty characteristic of the 1800s. Monty

 

[BuckleBoy]

I don't think the spoon pieces in the top photo are a match. The left one looks like it might be pewter--or iron. The right one, brass but with plating. These spoons are newer than the one you first posted.


Regards,


Buckles

 

[mojjax]

Here are some pics from "Kovels' Know Your Antiques" - yours looks more like the 1760 design , hope this helps a little !

 

[WHK621]

Wow,

This is great! Thanks so much! I can use this for my slide presentation as well. I really do appreciate everyone here going that extra mile for accuracy.

Thanks mojjax!

--Bill--

 

[Felinepeachy]

We aim to please!!!

 

[goldie1959]

how that spoon and others get disfigured i would say that mothers would let kids dig in the dirt with them i am guilty of this my self.

 

[weigleg]

Pewter Spoon Very Similar to 1765 Mansion Spoon

Found this spoon today hunting the 18th century mansion near what appears to be an outdoor kitchen, (or what's left of one). I found a rock wall cemented in a semi circle but was not complete. I could not picture what this was but I know it was not an outdoor fireplace. Perhaps a landscape piece of somekind or and outdoor kitchen of some kind, but I didn't think this was common place in the late 18th century as the mansion was build in 1774, but I found the bowl end of a spoon about 5" down about 20 feet from this structure. I would just like any one's help in dating this item. It is a pointed spoon that is larger than a modern tablespoon and beveled around the edges. The back side has a shell design but no other markings.

Thanks in advance for your help with this.

Three years ago, I found a spoon that is almost identical to this one. On the back of the bowl, I could faintly make out the date 1745 and a Scottish proof mark that corresponds to the year 1745. That was a significant year in Scotland (similar to what 1776 is to us). Last weekend, I went back to the same location and found the missing handle. Here are some pics. Feel free to contact me anytime for more details.

Glenn (240) 815-1623 cell

 

[DCMatt]

Three years ago, I found a spoon that is almost identical to this one. On the back of the bowl, I could faintly make out the date 1745 and a Scottish proof mark that corresponds to the year 1745. That was a significant year in Scotland (similar to what 1776 is to us). Last weekend, I went back to the same location and found the missing handle. Here are some pics. Feel free to contact me anytime for more details.

Glenn (240) 815-1623 cell

That's AWESOME! I haven't seen many posts over the years where someone went back an found "the other part(s)" of a previous find. Although I seem to recall CRUSADER and CRUDAD digging two halves of the same coin years apart. Typically I bristle when someone revives a 10+ year old thread (unless it's me ) but this one is worth it. I hope that old site has produced many goodies for you! Thx for posting!