1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

[grimroofer]

i went on a birthday hunt yesterday and it spilled over to today darn lol i found a 1891 V nickel and some wheat's a bunch of horse shoes 2 rusted spurs and a pile of junk but the things that are getting me are these tags i put them on what is it but no good i found them at an old unused church 1862 founded they seem to have a crown with a cross in front any help is appreciated

 

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[HCW]

In Hawaii?! Cool.

 

[briankb70]

not a clue but cool anyways

 

[LabradorBob (Missouri)]

Do these have anything at all on the opposite side?

 

[grimroofer]

no the back is plain

 

[BuckleBoy]

Either a moratorium tag or some sort of tax tag is my guess.

 

[garthbfan169]

Not sure what they are but they are very kool!! WTG

 

[CAgem]

The hat looks more like a cardinal's than a king's crown.

 

[allen]

maybe the church deacons wore them for id purposes?!
definetily looks like something from a church !

 

[Texasgopher]

Very cool. My parents are vacationing in Hawaii as we speak.

 

[1235CE]

very nice.......could these be old dog tax tags?

HH all!

Greg

 

[slykatt13]

i think there coat check tags for a hotel.i could be wrong.nice finds

 

[ivan salis]

church humm -- the crown looks like the --" hawiian crown" --- a type used by the old hawiian royality --- the church might have been set up and supported by planters * ( american , british or german maybe) most planters were foreigners and set up churches for converting the local hawaiians to their religions ( it helped them gain control of them via religion -- (the preachers told the hawaiians to be meek and peaceful and go along as part of their convertion "process")--the outside "bussiness" planter faction ( basically a ultra wealthy bunch of robber baron types) illegally over threw the king and took over control of the hawiian islands by causing "unrest" from within --then "demanding" the usa land troops to take over since things had "broken down" and the king was not "in control" anymore --once the US military "intervened" --the queen was forced to sign over all powers to the us govt --basically she was held in house arrest for "her protection" until she did so. -- it was similar to the way the native american indain "land grabs" were done -- white "bussiness" land grabbers want land that the indains by right of "treaty" have ---so the white land grabbers tresspass upon it and cause "unrest" then demand that the US Military be brought in to "do" something about the indain "unrest" that breaks the treaty --the next thing you know the "trouble making" indains are rounded up and shipped of to some bleak hell hole and the lands been grabbed . -- old school land stealing 101.

 

[kc10bull]

Here is a web site for the crown from the tags, with some history. Still looking for more history on the crown itself. As for the tags themselves still researching.

http://www.keouanui.org/Crown_lands
here's some more history scoll down to Kalākaua Dynasty for Coat of Arms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Hawaii

 

[ivan salis]

as I thought its the hawaiian crown *

 

[grimroofer]

wow you doing better than i am and i live here i was looking at the dime i found and thought the crown looked real close i put a pic of it in the what is it section under 1800s tags?? thanks for all the help

 

[ivan salis]

possiibly burial spot ID tags attached to wooden crosses --- burail grounds were often next to a church -- year of death -- and number --- like 1876 burial number 111 --and 1880 burail number 230 -- being on wooden crosses once they rotted away only the ID tags would be left

dog tags if there was a dog tag "tax" is a possiblity as well.

on the big plantations that the robber baron types ran --where the "bosses" had hundreds if not thousands of workers -- they often used a "work chit system" -- metal chits that the workers carried as id's -- when they turned in the crops they picked they showed their chit to the "count boss" and got credited for the work "on the books "-- when they shopped at the company store they showed their chit to buy stuff -- if the amount "on the books" showed him as having credit --he could get stuff .

 

[Kieth-Tx]

I'm with Greg on these...look like old dog tax tags!!! Nice finds!

http://www.pl8s.com/platestand-dogs.htm

 

[grimroofer]

thanks for all the input i don't think they are grave site tags there in not enough room on the whole site to put over 6000 bodies even if they stacked them up and i was all the way on the other side way away from any graves and that is allot of dog tags for 1876 but the credit tags sound the most plausible I'm am hoping i can get to town and talk to someone at the library this weekend i will keep you posted thanks

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

Hawaii was Occupied by the US from the 1870's to the 1890's. Maybe it has something to do with travel throughout the islands. This auction site specializes in medals and tokens: http://www.exonumia.com/ You should contact them.