1804 silver dollar

[baldiphoto]

at work today i was showen a 1804 silver dollar....what is it called and what might it be worth.

 

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[l.cutler]

If it is a US dollar it is a reproduction. All known are pretty well documented from the time they were made in the mid 19th century until the present day. A new discovery piece would be highly unlikely.

 

[blurr]

Here is a little information.

http://www.coinresource.com/guide/photograde/pg_$1DrapedBust.htm


John

 

[Jeffro]

It's called a "copy", and its worth about $9.95. In the bargain bin at your local Walmart.

 

[Jeffro]

There are four types of 1804 dollars. The first type, only 8 are known. The rest have 6, 1, and 4 examples, respectively.

The one with only 1 example is Unique, and therefore priceless. It's in the Smithsonian.

The rest? Whatever someone is willing to pay. Several million each, I imagine!

 

[FredCobol]

http://coins.ha.com/common/info/press/default.php?ReleaseID=1091

 

[baldiphoto]

i have read all the comments and checked with the lady at work today over the phone.....she tells me this coin looks like the one that sold for 2.4 million in 06 .....so what might she have now...

 

[djui5]

Need to get a picture, or tell her to send it in and have it graded by PCGS. They'll tell her if it's fake or not.

 

[Siegfried Schlagrule]

Until recently fakes did not have to have the word "copy" on them. There are older unmarked fakes of every rare coin in the world. Many of them were sold in sets during the US bicentennial. Do the lady a favor and weigh her coin. Compare that weight to the listed weight in the Red Book. If they don't match closely don't bother trying to get it certified. They will gladly take your money and tell you its a fake. Some of the larger coin shows the certification services set up and do free or cheap appraisals and grading. You could also contact Christies Auction House or Sothebys but I'm pretty sure that they will tell you that they get offered several hundred each year that are "previously unkown specimens" and none have been genuine yet. siegfried schlagrule.

 

[l.cutler]

Fakes from China are currently flooding the world as well, they are all over flea markets and online auctions.

 

[FredCobol]

It could also be a real silver dollar with an altered date.

 

[05Duramax]

Just got done reading Double Eagle the story of the 1933 gold piece and they touched a little on the coin your talking about. I believe the book said that other collectors wanted this coin so the dies were pulled out again and a few more copies were made but these didn't have writing going around the rim like the original did, but unless you work where they display the coin I doubt it's the real deal.

 

[FredCobol]

Also check the die rotation. Normally US coins have a 180 degree rotation between the front and back. Some of the replicas do not have a die rotation.

 

[baldiphoto]

i checked the die rotation on this coin and when holding the coin at 12 and 6 o clock and i rotate i see the shield is now at 5:00......this might now be enough of a rotation....

 

[l.cutler]

A picture would probably clear it up pretty quickly.

 

[FredCobol]

i checked the die rotation on this coin and when holding the coin at 12 and 6 o clock and i rotate i see the shield is now at 5:00......this might now be enough of a rotation....

Take any US Coin and compare its front to back rotation. If you hold it right side up at 12 and 6 and rotate it the back should be upside down (or close to it).

 

[baldiphoto]

this coin only has a 5% rotation, so it might no be the real thing