1736 coin need Id help please z

[Eastcoasthunter21]

1736 coin need I'd help please z

Hello all hope things are good,
Been hitting a nice area loads of history all around
Found an old home site a huge bottle dump and a few coins in 2 hr hunt
Only had a short time today
I found a coin dated 1736. Toasted but I'll post what I have maybe one of my tnet fellow hunters may know. Thanks for reading Eastcoast

 

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[Scrappy]

I've found a couple that look similar, and the 3rd pic stands out as a 1806 KG3 half penny. Bold head, very little bust, and a shallow depression from the edge to the head outline. That would be my guess.

 

[hbeaton]

As you said you could get a date of 1736 off of it, I'm gonna guess its whats left of a George II farthing or half penny, both coins are really close in appearance and the farthing measures 25mm while the half penny is 29mm.

 

[Iron Patch]

George I Halfpenny. (1717-1724) Most likely a 1720s date.

 

[Z.K.]

Eastcoast: Cool find!

Iron Patch: In a case like this, absent a definitive date, how can you differentiate between a right-facing George I and right-facing George III? The shape of the profile? (I'm asking in earnest, just learning these things)

 

[Iron Patch]

Eastcoast: Cool find!

Iron Patch: In a case like this, absent a definitive date, how can you differentiate between a right-facing George I and right-facing George III? The shape of the profile? (I'm asking in earnest, just learning these things)

If you look at the bust side first it is much more consistent with George I than George III, but on that alone you can't ID. It's looking at the reverse and seeing the coin is made like a George I halfpenny which is different than George III..... and with the bust making sense, I have very little doubt that's what it is.

 

[Don in SJ]

Agree it is a KGI Halfpenny, the bust shape as previously described by Scrappy and the rim around it all without a doubt point to that being the ID and most likely as IP said 1719-24 date time frame, not 1717-18. The most common years found for KGI are 1723 and 1724.

 

[Scrappy]

There you have it. Beauty ID. Congrats, that's getting early!

 

[gunsil]

Need diameter!! Looks more like a farthing to me from the size of the fingers, diameter will tell if it's a farthing or a half penny.

 

[Scrappy]

1736 coin need I'd help please z

Agree it is a KGI Halfpenny, the bust shape as previously described by Scrappy and the rim around it all without a doubt point to that being the ID and most likely as IP said 1719-24 date time frame, not 1717-18. The most common years found for KGI are 1723 and 1724.

I'm going to go ahead and stir the pot a little here. I think I see 1718 on there. I feel good about the "7" and the "1". Just so I can learn Don and IP, why are 1717 & 1718 coins not likely? Is it just the amount that show up and therefore just the odds, or was it something in mintage, political, or otherwise?

Thx

Steve

 

[Iron Patch]

I'm going to go ahead and stir the pot a little here. I think I see 1718 on there. I feel good about the "7" and the "1". Just so I can learn Don and IP, why are 1717 & 1718 coins not likely? Is it just the amount that show up and therefore just the odds, or was it something in mintage, political, or otherwise?

Thx

Steve

The 1717 and 1718 (dump issue) are less common, but very possible, as I have dug one myself. The dump is issue thicker, and only 1mm smaller, if the reference is right that I'm looking at online.... so would be pretty hard to tell the difference on a coin in very rough condition. I thought the dump would have been a little smaller in diameter.

From the site.

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1717-1718 Copper, 10 grams, 26mm Diameter.
1719-1724 Copper, 10 grams, 27mm Diameter.
1717-1718 1717-1718 Copper, 10 grams, 26mm Diameter.
1719-1724 Copper, 10 grams, 27mm Diameter.Copper, 10 grams, 26mm Diameter.
1719-1724 Copper, 10 grams, 27mm Diameter.

 

[Garrett424]

Dunno' what it is but I sure like it.

congrats.

 

[Don in SJ]

I have a 1720 Farthing and many Halfpence for KGI. Here is a photo of a Farthing with a Quarter and a Halfpenny. The Farthing is just smaller than a quarter and the Halfpenny is larger than the quarter. Halfpenny is what you found from what I see.

 

[Mackaydon]

Don in SJ,
Great pic for comparison; thanks.
Don....

 

[Don in SJ]

I have 3 dump issue KGI, two 1717 and one 1718 and all three are right around 26mm in diameter and yes they are a tad thicker.

 

[Iron Patch]

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[Erik in NJ]

So would a William III Sixpence be 6 pennies?

LOL I was just thinking about this this AM and realized I had confused the terms p and pence. Of course Don was correct and I was incorrect--sorry for MY confusion, I'm going to remove my original post to avoid more confusion.