1715 Fleet locations

[Bum Luck]

Has anyone a Lat-Lon list of ballast pile locations from the 1715 Fleet?

 

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[ivan salis]

yes the fishers do. being those are their wrecks . I'm quite sure the state of florida also has them "listed" as well.

 

[wreckdiver1715]

This question gets asked often, but it's also a good refresher.

The following excerpt is from the contract between the state and the Mel Fisher group in Sebastian Florida. These locations are usually centered on the ballest piles. Also keep in mind that some of these sites are from the 1715 fleet and some are not. (http://www.imacdigest.com/)
BENT ANCHOR S32G 27.55.7N X 80.29.12W; East to 27.55.7N X 80.28.57W; South-southeast to 27.53.28N X 80.27.24W; West to 27.53.28N X 80.27.68W; then follow the mean low tide line to point of beginning.
CABIN WRECK S27 27.49.8N X 80.25.55W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of mean low tide line.
DOUGLAS BEACH S26 27.25.3N X 80.16.50W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
POWER PLANT S25 27.21.2N X 80.13.65W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
ANCHOR WRECK S23 27.48.2N X 80.24.70W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
SPRING OF WHITBY S23 27.46.0N X 80.23.83W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
RIO MAR S23 27.38.3N X 80.20.90W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
SANDY POINT S23 27.35.8N X 80.19.65W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
UNKNOWN S23 27.19.0N X 80.12.30W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
CORRIGANS WRECK S25 27.46.2N X 80.22.67W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.

 

[wreckdiver1715]

Nuestra Senora de la Regla - Cabin Wreck - 2 Miles South of Sebastian inlet
Urca de Lima aka Santissima Trinidad - Wedge Wreck - 1.5 Miles South of Ft. Pierce inlet
Nuestra Senora de las Nieves - Colored Beach Wreck - 2.5 Miles South of Ft. Pierce inlet, 700 yards off the beach
Maria Galante - Never Found
Santo Cristo de San Roman - Corrigan's Wreck - Just South of Wabasso beach
Nuestra Senora del Carmen - Rio Mar Wreck - 900 feet off the first green Rio Mar Golf Course
Nuestra Senora de la Concepcion – Went down on the southern shoal of Cape Canaveral - Never Found
El Senor San Miguel - Never Found
La Olandesa aka San Miguel – Not located, Probably between Rio Mar and Sandy Point
El Cievro aka La Galleria - Never Found
Nuestra Senora del Rosario - Sandy Point Wreck - 500 feet off shore at Sandy Point

 

[ivan salis]

wreck diver 1715 ---the following vessels most likely are within the 1715 fleet wreck general area all 5 of Ubilla's vessels and both main treasure vessels and the Olandesa of Echeverz fleet----including the maria galante (the small patache class type frigattila-- (being so small cargo might have been carried instead of ballast to be more "profietible")-- also known as the "english prize" vessel * taken earlier by Echeverz along with the small frigate type dutch prize --which also might have had little to no ballast in the interest of carrying more cargo--(La Olandesa--"the Holland /dutch" with La being the female term of "the" in spanish ) and the french prize (EL Ciervo-- "the stag" with EL being the male form of "the" in spanish ) all three vessels were taken off of south america --and yes there are male and female forms of "the" in spanish.

* the english prize is spoke of in the book "the funnel of gold" -- it was how the spanish found out that govemor hamilton was working with the "english pirates" -- when it was taken as a "prize" --the english capt said that the govenor was a 25% partner in the venture -- however the ploy did not work and the boat was still taken over as a "prize" vessel --it was later sold to Ubilla who was short of small vessels due to several of his small vessels being wrecked by bad weather in mexico.

by my reading of the records --it seems that Olandesa 's top deck works came ashore somewhat intact and were used as shelter during the recovery project -- in one letter Echeverz wrote --"from the real (shelter / camp) of the Olandesa --thus it loss site must be close to his 2 main known treasure vessel sites --- there were 11 spanish vessels lost in total * --- the accounting I get is all 5 of Ubillas fleet and 3 of Echeverz fleet in the main wreck site area --- with 3 of Echeverz vessels and the Griffon sailing away from the bulk of the fleet shortly before the main storm struck and thus most likely not within the "known" or general wreck site area area -- these are the Concepcion -- thought to be lost somewhere near the cape* (due to the fact some survivors were found at the cape having floated on a hatch cover for a few days)--and the 2 other remaining vessels are still "totally" unaccounted for are --the EL Senor San Miguel (nao-- tabbacco listed as its main cargo ) and the EL Ciervo ( 96 tons of brazilwood- listed as cargo)

the Griffon went on to brest ,france.

 

[wyobuck]

This question gets asked often, but it's also a good refresher.

The following excerpt is from the contract between the state and the Mel Fisher group in Sebastian Florida. These locations are usually centered on the ballest piles. Also keep in mind that some of these sites are from the 1715 fleet and some are not. (http://www.imacdigest.com/)
BENT ANCHOR S32G 27.55.7N X 80.29.12W; East to 27.55.7N X 80.28.57W; South-southeast to 27.53.28N X 80.27.24W; West to 27.53.28N X 80.27.68W; then follow the mean low tide line to point of beginning.
CABIN WRECK S27 27.49.8N X 80.25.55W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of mean low tide line.
DOUGLAS BEACH S26 27.25.3N X 80.16.50W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
POWER PLANT S25 27.21.2N X 80.13.65W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
ANCHOR WRECK S23 27.48.2N X 80.24.70W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
SPRING OF WHITBY S23 27.46.0N X 80.23.83W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
RIO MAR S23 27.38.3N X 80.20.90W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
SANDY POINT S23 27.35.8N X 80.19.65W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
UNKNOWN S23 27.19.0N X 80.12.30W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
CORRIGANS WRECK S25 27.46.2N X 80.22.67W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.

Corrigans wreck location can't be correct here, the coordinates put it right off Wabasso.

 

[GOHO]

The Latitude for Corrigans Wreck Ballast is 27 43.800 the ballast is scattered for several hundred yards around this point.

 

[wyobuck]

Thanks GOHO, I knew the lattitude posted couldn't be correct. Happy New Year!

 

[Bum Luck]

Thank you everybody.

I've been interested in these wrecks since I met Art McKee, 1975.