1236X2 questions and experiences - lots of them

ruccello

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1236X2 questions and experiences - lot's of them

Hi everyone, I wanted to get some experienced 1236x2 users to help me with a few questions. I have the stock coil, and I use headphones. I hunt a mill/homestead site quite a bit - very large site. As you can imagine, iron everywhere. I usually keep the discrimination down to 1-2, and the sensitivity to 8-9. I've been able to find three nickels - 1867 shield, 1936 buffalo, and 1943 jefferson. I've been experimenting with different ways to detect this area with this machine. First, when I get a signal, I run the coil over it left to right, and front to back. Then I rotate the discrimination to as high as I can to see where it discriminates out. I can usually tell if it's iron or something else - I THINK! Then I'll change it to iron mode to see if it's a small piece of iron. Also, I always use the silencer. I found all three nickels this way - they didn't discriminate until I hit around 5-6, and the 1943 was even higher (silver), and they all had a good signal in the iron mode although the signal on nickels still seems a little erratic, sounding like chatter, or breaking up. They were all dug at 2-4". But sometimes even this method brought up an iron nail.

Sometimes I get a lot of chatter going over an area - I'm guessing a lot of iron nails, or barbed wire. Do you guys have this same problem? If I get chatter like this - large area - I usually try to slow the sweep speed, make shorter strokes and circle around. If it continues, I'll move on, thinking it's hundreds of nails, or a fence.

My first questions:
1. Should I dig all of these signals even if they discriminate out at 3, and/or if the signal disappears in the iron mode? I usually do, and they've always been nails. If I don't dig, I'm afraid that the iron is masking something else, but that hasn't been the case yet. Has anyone else found silver masked by iron with this machine?

2. Should I always use the silencer? Does the silencer affect depth, or discrimination?

3. When I get a lot of chatter, should I still be digging?

Another way I detect this site is in iron mode with the silencer on. Supposedly this will discriminate small nails and other small iron signals. This certainly does discriminate out all of those tiny nails, but I'm afraid I'm missing good stuff, especially in areas with large concentrations of nails in a small area (5-6 foot area).

Questions:

1. Will silver produce a signal with a small iron nail over it with the 1236x2 in this mode? In any mode?

2. If I slow down my swing speed, and shorten the length of my swings to 1" - 2", will I be able to pick up a silver signal (assuming there's silver there) next to iron that has been discriminated out, especially in those areas with a large concentration of nails?

I'm guessing the best thing to do is 0 discrimination, silencer off, and dig until there's nothing left to dig. I'd love to here other 1236x2 user experiences. The more info available to each of us, the better off we all are in our hunting success.

Richard
 

Re: 1236X2 questions and experiences - lot's of them

Sounds like your hunting a tuff spot for any detector. The only place that I ever used the silencer was in areas that had a lot of foil, even then I would try to avoid it. In iron I would turn it off and back down the sensitivity a hair and see how the machine responds. Also, the small 4" coil works great in those real trashy areas.

Good luck

Kurt
 

Re: 1236X2 questions and experiences - lot's of them

ruccello said:
Hi everyone, I wanted to get some experienced 1236x2 users to help me with a few questions. I have the stock coil, and I use headphones. I hunt a mill/homestead site quite a bit - very large site. As you can imagine, iron everywhere. I usually keep the discrimination down to 1-2, and the sensitivity to 8-9. I've been able to find three nickels - 1867 shield, 1936 buffalo, and 1943 jefferson. I've been experimenting with different ways to detect this area with this machine. First, when I get a signal, I run the coil over it left to right, and front to back. Then I rotate the discrimination to as high as I can to see where it discriminates out. I can usually tell if it's iron or something else - I THINK! Then I'll change it to iron mode to see if it's a small piece of iron. Also, I always use the silencer. I found all three nickels this way - they didn't discriminate until I hit around 5-6, and the 1943 was even higher (silver), and they all had a good signal in the iron mode although the signal on nickels still seems a little erratic, sounding like chatter, or breaking up. They were all dug at 2-4". But sometimes even this method brought up an iron nail.

Sometimes I get a lot of chatter going over an area - I'm guessing a lot of iron nails, or barbed wire. Do you guys have this same problem? If I get chatter like this - large area - I usually try to slow the sweep speed, make shorter strokes and circle around. If it continues, I'll move on, thinking it's hundreds of nails, or a fence.

My first questions:
1. Should I dig all of these signals even if they discriminate out at 3, and/or if the signal disappears in the iron mode? I usually do, and they've always been nails. If I don't dig, I'm afraid that the iron is masking something else, but that hasn't been the case yet. Has anyone else found silver masked by iron with this machine?

2. Should I always use the silencer? Does the silencer affect depth, or discrimination?

3. When I get a lot of chatter, should I still be digging?

Another way I detect this site is in iron mode with the silencer on. Supposedly this will discriminate small nails and other small iron signals. This certainly does discriminate out all of those tiny nails, but I'm afraid I'm missing good stuff, especially in areas with large concentrations of nails in a small area (5-6 foot area).

Questions:

1. Will silver produce a signal with a small iron nail over it with the 1236x2 in this mode? In any mode?

2. If I slow down my swing speed, and shorten the length of my swings to 1" - 2", will I be able to pick up a silver signal (assuming there's silver there) next to iron that has been discriminated out, especially in those areas with a large concentration of nails?

I'm guessing the best thing to do is 0 discrimination, silencer off, and dig until there's nothing left to dig. I'd love to here other 1236x2 user experiences. The more info available to each of us, the better off we all are in our hunting success.

Richard

Like Kurt said do not use the silencer around iron/nails. It adds extra filtering and will kill the signal on good stuff near iron. I will admit however that when I had the 1236 I never tried using the silencer with the disc set down low between 1 and 2. I have no idea how that would work out around small iron!

Best thing to do around iron is use the preset disc or simply set the disc so that the audio on small rusty nails starts to pop and break up. Hunt slow and dig everything that sounds better than the broken iron sounds even if it is not a clean "beep".

Regarding raising the disc setting to check targets, deeper high conductive coins will disc out just over a setting of 6. So when you get one of the soft nice sounding "whisper signals" that disappear with the disc around 6 to 6.5.. DIG! Heck just dig all those soft sounds!!

Tom
 

Re: 1236X2 questions and experiences - lot's of them

Richard,

Let me first say that I have never used the 1236-X2... But I have used a 1266-X for 16 years, and this sounds like a similar can of worms...


I wouldn't use the silencer, but I would bump your disc up a hair.  From where you say the nickels tuned out (between 5 and 6), which is where they tune out on my Old Fisher, I would tell ya to keep the disc about 4.5 and make sure you hit each patch of ground from different directions/circle around over "iffy" signals, swiping them from different directions.  I dig big iron out with my machine--but usually I can get at least an "iffy" signal when there is something good between nails. 

The key is to disc the nails out just enough until they chatter, but keep all the non-ferrous sounding good enough to dig (except for the big iron, which will always sound good).

Dig the big iron and get it out of there.

The masking is going to hit you the WORST with big ferrous.  Just yesterday I was out and dug a big piece of iron out and got a brass thimble after I removed the iron.  Due to the fact that I mainly hunt Iron-infested sites, this has happened to me time and time again.


I hope this helps


Regards,



Buckleboy
 

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