More River Finds - What Kind of Chisel Is This?

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**UPDATE** Here's a photo of the mill dam spike finally preserved. The second image is of the a mill dam in a river in Western Virginia. It was taken in 1899 and the men are using a seine to catch fish. The ladies are on standby to fry the fish or, maybe, to make sure the men don't come up empty handed. :laughing7:

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**End of update.**

Went on a river hunt recently in the Southeastern part of the United States. The area has seen some Civil War action. Didn't do as well this time as I have previously. Below are pics of what I scrounged out of the river- a dropped Confederate Gardner bullet, an old Zippo lighter, melted lead, a piece of pottery, an old shell casing, a lead fishing net weight with part of "Chicago, IL" on the inside, part of a horseshoe still fuzed to some river rock and what appears to be some type of chisel. I'd like some help on that chisel. It's about 10" long and roughly 1" square and you can see it's been blunted on both ends. There are also diagonal slashes on 2 opposite corners. I'm thinking maybe it's a stonemason's chisel, but the slash marks cut into the corners have puzzled.

Both the horseshoe and the chisel were recovered from a ford in the river that dates to the pre-Civil War era. I had wanted to spend a lot more time at the ford as I believe there's are some potential good finds there - but I ran out of time. Thanks for taking a look!
 

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Don't believe it was originally a chisel or punch, although it has obviously been used as such at some time. At first glance I thought harrow tooth, but the corner slits don't fit with that. My best guess, old cotton picker spindle, or something like. Hope someone can give you a definitive answer. You may want to post in the "What is it" forum.

Old_Okie
 

Richard, we find a lot of those and I'm pretty sure they are harrow teeth. I wish you good luck this Fall and hope we get to hunt together sometime. I hope you get back to hunt that site again as it shows promise. HH, Quindy.
 

I believe it to be a spike that was designed to be driven into wood and never removed. I find many of them in the rivers and especially at old stone and cribbage dams. Heck, I suspect I may have seen you dig it Thursday afternoon.
 

I believe it to be a spike that was designed to be driven into wood and never removed. I find many of them in the rivers and especially at old stone and cribbage dams. Heck, I suspect I may have seen you dig it Thursday afternoon.

Hmmm . . . no bridge or dam close by though, as I said, it was once a rather heavily traveled ford. Wasn't me you saw Beau - I was no where near any water on Thursday (unfortunately) and have never done any detecting up your way - though I'm certainly open to an invitation. :laughing7:

Yes, I suppose those diagonal "slashes" in the two corners could be there as a means to keep the spike from backing or being pulled out of wood - similar to a hunting arrow design. That makes sense.

Thanks everyone.
 

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To me..and I am no expert...It looks like the wedge that goes with a set of feather and wedges.It is tapered with square sides and used to split rock. Just a guess,take care
 

Hmmm . . . no bridge or dam close by though, as I said, it was once a rather heavily traveled ford. Wasn't me you saw Beau - I was no where near any water on Thursday (unfortunately) and have never done any detecting up your way - though I'm certainly open to an invitation. :laughing7:

Yes, I suppose those diagonal "slashes" in the two corners could be there as a means to keep the spike from backing or being pulled out of wood - similar to a hunting arrow design. That makes sense.

Thanks everyone.


I figured it was a long shot that it was you, but the site I was at has a lot of those spikes that I haven't hauled out. BTW, I can see the Valley from my deck :)
 

To me..and I am no expert...It looks like the wedge that goes with a set of feather and wedges.It is tapered with square sides and used to split rock. Just a guess,take care

It does indeed resemble that type of wedge and there is solid bedrock in that part of the river. But the small end is flat instead of pointed . . . ???
 

I figured it was a long shot that it was you, but the site I was at has a lot of those spikes that I haven't hauled out. BTW, I can see the Valley from my deck :)

No, I would not knowingly come into your territory without letting you know. Common courtesy. But your videos do inspire me to keep takin' the AT Pro for a swim!
 

No, I would not knowingly come into your territory without letting you know. Common courtesy. But your videos do inspire me to keep takin' the AT Pro for a swim!

I do have to chuckle at that. Any given day could find me up to 150 miles from home digging. I go where the research leads me and after 33 years, it's usually quite a ways from home. Don't be surprised to look up one day and see me grinning at ya!
 

It does indeed resemble that type of wedge and there is solid bedrock in that part of the river. But the small end is flat instead of pointed . . . ???

The bigger end looks like it could have been hit by a hammer.The small end looks fine as the feathers were 1/2 round.In other words it doesn't need to be pointed because they fit in a round hole.I have used quite a few..The tapered profile and hammered end fit the bill for a rock splitting wedge.
If there are old houses around this area..It was common for the locals to quarry stones for steps and other shaped stones for their property.
 

I realy don't think it was used as a wedge for splitting rocks. Notice the nicks on the side of the wedge. These are there so it couldn't be removed from wood. Over the years I have found other iron relics with nicks on the side and these were all intended to be used in wood.
 

The bigger end looks like it could have been hit by a hammer.The small end looks fine as the feathers were 1/2 round.In other words it doesn't need to be pointed because they fit in a round hole.I have used quite a few..The tapered profile and hammered end fit the bill for a rock splitting wedge.
If there are old houses around this area..It was common for the locals to quarry stones for steps and other shaped stones for their property.

Thanks CFD, but I believe the narrow end is too blunted to be used in that fashion. Of course, it's possible - I'm no expert.
 

I realy don't think it was used as a wedge for splitting rocks. Notice the nicks on the side of the wedge. These are there so it couldn't be removed from wood. Over the years I have found other iron relics with nicks on the side and these were all intended to be used in wood.

Yes, to me the nicks on the corners are for that purpose, as Aquachigger pointed out.
 

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