Mid 1700s plantation site finds

[screwynewy]

Mid 1700's plantation site finds

Discovered the remains of a plantation in an area of some early settlements in coastal NC this weekend. Too bad that it appears that I am not the first to discover it based on the meager finds. Anyway, I did manage to pull a musket ball, one single button, broken piece of brass decorative plate, couple pieces of pewter utensils, lots of nice hand forged nails, a lead seal, and other misc. period items.

The small piece had me excited at first glance. It thought it might be a cob but turns out it is copper or brass and appears to have something stamped on it. Might have been a button. Let me know if you see anything on it or maybe it is just corroded metal with nothing at all?

 

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[Goldiver]

Looks like a hammered copper coin to me, wish it had more detail left.

Steve

 

[vpnavy]

Nice finds screwynewy. Thanks for sharing...

 

[birdman]

I thought it was a cob also. Still you are in a good spot for Spanish silver!

 

[screwynewy]

Looks like a hammered copper coin to me, wish it had more detail left.

Steve

Hadn't even considered that. Actually didn't know they hammered coins out of copper. The only cobs that I see posted are silver. In its condition it is too far gone to ID it.

 

[HomeGuardDan]

Very earl looking site! Having grown up in that part of the state, there are plenty of early sites to be found. I would say hammered copper, or perhaps a counterfit cob. Not much detail left to be certain.

HH

Dan

 

[Bill D. (VA)]

I can't really add any more to what's already been said about that copper/brass item, but I do feel that it's some kind of coin. But I don't think its a cob. Also, those are rose head nails in one of your pics which we find at the earliest sites (1600s). Keep pounding that place as something amazing just might come to light.

 

[pepperj]

Taking a look at just photo #3 and 5, the 3rd photo shows some shiny surface at the top of the find, and #5 shows an indent in the back of the find. I'm just wondering if an early French bale seal has been considered?

 

[Iron Patch]

Taking a look at just photo #3 and 5, the 3rd photo shows some shiny surface at the top of the find, and #5 shows an indent in the back of the find. I'm just wondering if an early French bale seal has been considered?

A lead seal wouldn't have edge loss like that.


My guess would be counterfeit Spanish, early and a larger coin, possibly a cob because it seems quite thick.

 

[screwynewy]

Thanks for the comments. Too bad there is not more detail left to ID it. I plan to get back to this site in the winter after some of the vegitation dies down. Maybe I can get lucky and make some good finds out away from the foundation.

@ Bill D., I realized that I was on a very early site based on the rose head nails. It is amazing how much effort was put into making each of these by hand. They are still in very good condition after 250+ years.

@ Dan, You probably detected this very site which is why I can't find anything there

 

[Ifoundit69]

nice score!

 

[gwdigger]

You have a Valencia Spanish copper/ bronze coin. Congrats!

FORVM's Classical Numismatics Gallery - SPAIN/SPAIN - Valencia, Philip IV

Like Bill Says, work that site - you've already likely reached the mid to late 17th century so you could find anything there at this point.

 

[Blueblood]

Wow! After looking at the link photo and comparing it to your photo, it's easy to see it now. I was thinking in terms of letters not a design. Very neat indeed!

 

[gwdigger]

Here are some more crude pieces among an image search:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Val..._F7PH4APm9IAI&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=898&bih=385

 

[g-olden years]

Congrats on your groovy old coin!

T-net is so cool: within a few hours of your posting, gwdigger provides link to positive ID which we can all click on to see the coin details & history - wonderful! HAVE FUN! Andi

 

[HomeGuardDan]

BTW I do see two early musket pieces there as well. You are on it bud!

 

[screwynewy]

You have a Valencia Spanish copper/ bronze coin. Congrats!

FORVM's Classical Numismatics Gallery - SPAIN/SPAIN - Valencia, Philip IV

Like Bill Says, work that site - you've already likely reached the mid to late 17th century so you could find anything there at this point.

Wow, great job on the ID, thanks! I'm blown away at the knowledge and expertise of the members here on Tnet. This would make the second 17th century coin find for me in coastal NC. I'll definitely be getting back to this site sooner than I had planned. I'm just glad that I didn't toss this aside thinking it was trash.

 

[The Rebel]

WTG on a sweet find! Gotta love getting into the 1600 club!

 

[The Rebel]

AWESOME ID! I thought I was seeing a Fleur De Leis, making it French.

You have a Valencia Spanish copper/ bronze coin. Congrats!

FORVM's Classical Numismatics Gallery - SPAIN/SPAIN - Valencia, Philip IV

Like Bill Says, work that site - you've already likely reached the mid to late 17th century so you could find anything there at this point.

 

[reednc]

Congratulations Ken, that is a great find.