Metal detecting in Turkey 7/31/2013

[dirtfisher23]

Finally, I have received word from the Consulate in Los Angeles; It reads as follows
with regards to the law regulating Metal Detecting in Turkey. HOWEVER, keep in mind
that not all local policing in Turkey may be on the same page. Ignorance runs rampant
everywhere. Some police are just as corrupt as they are anywhere else and assume you do not
know the law, arrest you, and PRESTO they have a brand new metal detector. BEWARE!



From

Losangeles Ticaret Ataşeliği

To

Dear Sir:

We have checked the permission requirement for searching treasures and contacted in Turkish Custom Consul in Washington D.C. in this matter.

In Turkey, searching treasury is legal but those who want to search, need to apply to government office or nearest museum administration to receive the permission. In this case, administration issue a certificate and provide an witness officer accompanying with you during the search of specified area.

For metal detector for touristic purposes, entering to Turkey, Custom Consul in Washington D.C responded as ; This particular item is not listed as special item that the passenger can bring in limited quantity which means that it is considered as personal item. Any item for personal use up to 430 Euro value, can be entered with passenger and doesn't require additional custom charge. Since the product is special and custom officer may keep it, in this case, your detector is kept at the custom's warehouse, then you can receive back when you leave the Turkey.

If you need more assistance you can contact to Custom Consul in Washington directly [email protected]

Kindly Regards,



Murat GOREN

Commercial Attache of Los Angeles

 

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[ynpto804]

Are people banging down the doors to hunt in Turkey Is there some expressed interest in hunting there? I am not sure I understand the point of this topic.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Hmmm, interesting. So maybe those guys md'ing in Turkey aren't "doing it illegally" afterall. (Oh SAY IT ISN'T So!

)

As for the part of "with a permit" (or permission or inquire at each location type of stuff), gee, that doesn't sound very different than some of the states on the FMDAC list for the USA, eh? You know, the "inquire at each kiosk" or "with permission from each district park's sector supervisor", blah blah blah. And as far as permits, gee, so too is there cities and counties who have invented such things. And no, they're not hard to obtain.

But back to the Los Angeles consulate's answer, a few observations:

a) I notice that the words: "treasure" is used. So ..... I wonder what would happen if you went to apply for this permission/permit thing, that ..... if you were to tell them "oh, well... I'm not really looking for "TREASURE" per se, but rather for individual fumble fingers modern coins and/or jewelry, from the modern beach" I wonder if they would laugh you out of the office, and say that hardly merits "treasure".

b) I still wonder if this applies to private land? Maybe such an answer is talking about public land ?

c) I notice the person answering does not cite any rule or law, to reference the answer they give you. Thus I wonder if that is really written anywhere? I guess it must be, if there's a known or established "permit" that's apparently out there? If so, I'd wonder what the permit paperwork looks like. Because perhaps that has more info. on what you can do, what they mean by "treasure", and so forth.

 

[New Orleans Relic]

Are people banging down the doors to hunt in Turkey Is there some expressed interest in hunting there? I am not sure I understand the point of this topic.

3 threads. Should've been 1.
Interesting though.
Ray

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Are people banging down the doors to hunt in Turkey Is there some expressed interest in hunting there? I am not sure I understand the point of this topic.

Well .... I can't speak to other people's reasons as to why it's an interesting topic to them. Because you're right: not likely that any of us T'nets have "pressing business" that's likely to take us to Turkey any time soon! But for me it's an interesting topic because of the priniciple of the matter. Ie.: the subject-in-general of how/why/if places are really off-limits, or whether ... no one cares and it's not an issue.

 

[dirtfisher23]

Someone wrote a post asking about detecting in Turkey; his plan was to visit the country
and wanted information on the laws governing the issue there. Since HE was interested (and
I later found out others were as well) I thought I might post the information here as well.

I am very concerned about the official response because they avoid the issue of detecting on
the beaches; I even sent them of tourists ON beaches with metal detectors. Honestly, I don't
think the people at their government offices have a clue as to what metal detecting even is. The language
doesn't help one bit.

Dirtfisher23

 

[Tom_in_CA]

They don't have a clue as to what metal detecting is, eh? Odd that something that someone "doesn't even know what it is", yet can authoritatively say "it's illegal ". Well then, this is simple then! Since they don't know what it is you're asking about , well gee, you're going to have to explain it to them, right ? (lest how else are they going to decide?). So you explain that you look for modern objects, kind of like a geo-caching game . I mean, why would you even need to tell them. "old coins and antiquities" to begin with , if they're relying on your description? I mean, heck , WE ALL do that all the time already . No one goes to city hall and says "hi , can i dig holes and steal treasure from the city park please ?". No, of course not . We euthamize it by not accentuating those things .

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

I've been following these "Turkey Tekkering" threads, and I will say this:
You end up in a Turkish prison, for stealing their relics, you better have a lot of "fruit of the month" subscriptions!
Their prisons are NOT run, like the American ones!

 

[dirtfisher23]

Hahahaha. I thought that it was the dyslexic atheist who said, "There is NO dog."

 

[Tom_in_CA]

I've been following these "Turkey Tekkering" threads, and I will say this:
You end up in a Turkish prison, for stealing their relics, you better have a lot of "fruit of the month" subscriptions!
Their prisons are NOT run, like the American ones!

Pat, If the issue of the point of threads on this, is "Is it illegal to detect everywhere in Turkey?", then ...... do you realize what your post is doing? It merely presumes one point of view, from the on-set. It is not addressing the question.

Example: If I say: "you better not drive a car, because jails are no fun". You might say "since when is it illegal to drive cars?". You see how my statement, in that case, merely makes the presumption that "driving cars is illegal". Sure, by all means, if it's illegal and if you "can be arrested", then by all means don't do it. But that is not the issue here. The issue here is: is there places/ways/times that it's not illegal, not "how fun are turkish jails".

You don't go to jail for doing non-illegal things.