The Lost Adams Diggings

[Red_desert]

Updating info on an older thread from last winter, posted by a retired PH D sciientist.
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/d...olor-satellite-image-map-lad-placer-gold.html

Adams made the following remark a number of times (it appeared in a number of different versions of the stories) "No geologists will ever find my gold". BLM contracted with three different geology firms between 1960 and 1985 to check the area for valuable mineralization and all three reports came back negative. Back then they didn't have satellite mineral imaging.

This is the NW flowing canyon with the short pine trees, 1000' wide canyon with nothing growing in it, the springs flowing on the SE side of it and the SE side of this canyon is darker than the other
side of the canyon, and this canyon ends in a steep box canyon three miles
to the NW.

According to Adams the ridge above the gold was 15 miles long (this
alteration zone is that length). This was the only Alteration zone within 30 miles of
the Aspen stand, so he thought this had to be the place.

The alteration zone is around 15 miles long and the pinkish-purple
erosion areas range from 1/2 mile (near the bottom of the map) to a couple of miles
wide near the canyon at the top.

At the top of these two areas is the canyon where the water flows in a NW direction. The springs are located at its right end (near where the orange line and red lines cross/touch). Near the top of the black box area is a black circle. This is where he found two old home sites and the older one had been burnt down. The newer one dated to the early 1900s. The rock chimney is there as well.

This stone chimney should be within 1/4 from the placer site. The rock chimney was built near the side of the canyon up from the sandy area so they didn't have to worry about water.

There could be a cache (of these placers) under an old rock chimney, they did put about 100% of it there just before the Indians killed all of them. But It should be expected that possibly the cache under the chimney has already been taken by one of the three survivors (he went to Mexico and bought a big ranch there).

The placer gold should be very shallow. Most of the gold the Adams party dug was less than two feet deep. It was so rich they didn't dig any deeper. The area was several hundred feet across and was in a sand pit in a low canyon.

The Indian guide told them the second placer deposit was only a few miles away (1/2 a day's horse ride away) and it was a lot richer. A 1/2 day ride would be no more than maybe 8 miles. Placer deposits can't form on their own and require an thin vein gold deposit to erode which forms them. Then the drainage washes them down to an area where they settle.

There is a 82' gorge that could have held the log jam Adams mentioned that caused a 60' high water fall (maybe it eroded another 22' deeper in the last 150 years of weathering to make it 82' deep now).

Please note: The line box (made by a retired PH D scientist) shows the area identified by IR satellite where the veins eroded (left side) and the alteration geology that produces the quartz veins. I put an overlay in sections of this box map, using my image which was posted with the hits.

I enlarged and cropped the area with the yellow circles, which were to mark raw gold hits. It is possible for a single vein to run a short distance outside the box because IR satellite won't pick up only one quartz vein. The original IR map was much larger, so some detail was lost when it was reduced in size.

Also marked the very first hit for raw gold with the largest yellow circle, then checked all around it to pinpoint the hits (smaller yellow circles). There are only 4 yellow circles on this cropped IR satellite map, 2 of them are inside the large yellow circle (then another 3 yellow hits to the SE on original whole map). Other type of hits in the area are marked in red or green. The 3 black circles were for something else which isn't related in any way with the LAD.

 

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On this map the green circle hits were done first (on this new box map) and the small black circle added later (for old rock chimney of a burned out cabin). The purpose of a new archaeological dowsing was to check for any more possible LAD site remains. In the cropped enlarged section, have labeled where 2 green hits turned out to be old cabin sites. Only afterwards, did I learn about the old burned out cabin location.

(Edit: Red lines go to the 2 cabin sites, plus to the yellow circle hit location below on cropped map.)

 

[G.A.P.metal]

Red
nice work,just wish i lived closer.
Gary

 

[Red_desert]

Red
nice work,just wish i lived closer.
Gary

Thanks Gary! I'm a long distance away also, but found some neat stuff in GE....will post it all in due time.

 

[Red_desert]

Looking in GE the area below the old cabin site, The 3 red circles in the box are along, but on the left side of the box line, that separates the erosionn area from the alteration zone. I found zooming in with GE for close veiwing, what appears to be a row of trees in a straight line north/south. At the south end of this row is another line of trees going in a NE direction. The NE end looks as if it points like an arrow.

I reasoned that if these trees were left as a marker, to the NE must be a landmark or location. While using GE and zoomed in enough to see the line of trees, moved along a little at a time straight NE. Sure enough there was a spot off the NW flowing canyon, a place water can flow to the SE to an area with uprooted fallen trees. You can actually see the water here in the GE maps. It is hard to tell if that arrowhead shape is a rock formation or a low spot full of water. It is exactly in line with the arrow like row of trees.

Reasoning again (about the possibility), Adams used these trees to find his way to the gold placer, checked all parts of the tree row marker. At the south end of the north/south row, a third row is formed to the NW but is rather curved ending in a semi-circle around a tree. So, I checked in GE for any site or possible landmark. For the estimated distance used the arrow tree marker and where the water flowed to from the NW flowing canyon.

Looking at the whole tree marker, it appears to be a fancy arrow pointing south. Next checked in GE the area it points toward. GE maps do appear flat when veiwing places with rock formations. Not sure what this is and it was so small even while zoomed in close. Kind of resembled almost somewhat of a Jewish Star of David. Until being there on a trip using gps coordinates, the site will remain a mystery.

(Edit: Because not all the maps could be uploaded here, the remaining images are put in the comment below.)

 

[Red_desert]

A closer look at the area below the tree marker and what appears to be diggings. In the close up you actually can see some water. Only in aerials showing water from a good recent rain, could any type of shallow diggings possibly show up.

One overlooked detail to the LAD story, the Indian guide may have taken other people to the site and it might be depleted of gold by now. Pin LAD_03 is where the NE arrow part of the tree marker points the way back to the NW flowing canyon. A red line box is around the spot where it appears to possibly be arrowhead shaped dug out, now wet from a recent rain.

 

[Red_desert]

Being a scientist, 90% of his time was spent searching in the Map_A area. This is above the spot with the 3 red circles and includes the burned out cabin site. The map is off-set east a little from Map_B, to cover the other side of line where erosion and alteration zones meet. There is an orange line box in the lower part of it.

Map_B covers the 3 red circle area below the burned out cabin, and the right map edge is on the line dividing erosion and alteration zones. There is a red box on the right edge of this map.

He wanted me to pinpoint the spot on these maps which aren't zoomed in enough and don't have the coordinates on them either. I offered to make my own GE maps, but it turned out didn't want anyone else to have specific gps coords. I couldn't get a specific coordinate to use for making my GE maps, all I got was one in the general area of the red box on Map_B. The retired Ph D scientist wouldn't let me use my GE maps for dowsing because I then would have the more specific coordinates. The only way for me to go on a LAD search trip with him using my rods, had to be done if or when a single hit was marked for the placer on Map_A, Map_B, Map_C (not shown, a map dierecrly below Map_B). My GE maps never were considered, neither looked at to see what I found visually (wheh later taking a closer look) found what is posted in comments above.

So, nobody else has specific coordinates to the site located on zoomed in GE maps. On my maps previously shown, right of the dug shallow trenches (some with water) is probably where the veins eroded away. I don't have any plans at the moment for a trip to the LAD, but was looking forward to being able to get away, off to a SW desert location (which to me is a nice type of vacation destistination).

 

[bookcliff]

I've heard that the Lost Adams Diggings may be in this area. But I've heard about a lot of areas as possible locations. This one is a new one from a Native American.

 

[Red_desert]

Bookcliff, do you know if that map is from this area? I took a real good look at it on my 29" flat screen.

I found a spot looked exactly the same, but I think was on his map C in the upper right corner. The map C is still in my old computer, so don't have it here to check right now. I enlarged the spot on the IR satellite map, about center inside the light colored box. Haven't been able to locate it myself yet in GE.

 

[bookcliff]

I have no idea where your location is. I must be missing something. I came up with this location from a 19 second YouTube video or the video was a start. The guy, Native American, also has some blogs and other internet sites.

 

[Red_desert]

If you don't know where, then I better not tell.

Your photo looks identical to a spot on the GE map of the retired Ph D scientist, where found some signals. I put a line box on the IR satellite image only to show the spot location (which looked much like yours except it had been a GE map).The GE map was made from directly below map B posted above, I only posted maps A & B, so C isn't in this thread.

Your photo had some lines on it like you find in GE, is why it looked like a GE map. I see now since you mentioned it was a video, he must have put the lines on there himself.

But it is hard to tell, when I put the grid on GE, it also makes some similar lines on deep drop offs in rivers, the ocean shorelines, mountains. It still could be a GE map, if he used a still image (which can be set in motion with transitions).

 

[Red_desert]

I tried searching videos and saw (didn't watch it) one that claims they found the LAD. video posted on Nov 3, 2013. Only within a couple days of when I started this thread.

 

[bookcliff]

I sent you a link in your email. That's just a beginning. I know a guy on this forum who was acquainted with a professional treasure hunter by the moniker of Apache Jim. He started a lot of stories. Some genuine, some questionable. Some even supposedly found. He places the Adams Diggings somewhere else but he was vague and closed lip about it. Just revealed enough to tease you and make you think he knew something you didn't.

 

[Red_desert]

I sent you a link in your email. That's just a beginning. I know a guy on this forum who was acquainted with a professional treasure hunter by the moniker of Apache Jim. He started a lot of stories. Some genuine, some questionable. Some even supposedly found. He places the Adams Diggings somewhere else but he was vague and closed lip about it. Just revealed enough to tease you and make you think he knew something you didn't.

Thanks!!!! I watched the video, yes it was short. The short video clip appeared to be showing the chimney of the burned out cabin. He very quickly pointed out a map to the motherlode. Thought the map was on a stone around the fireplace, not sure but definitely will have to look at the video more carefully.

(Edit: Watched the video again-fireplace 8 stones down, it is a drawing)

 

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[bookcliff]

I do believe out locations are not the same. I believe mine is within Navaho Nation.
Nicholas

 

[Red_desert]

My location is not the traditional LAD search area, so I would have to zoom out to check about that, all was done putting in coordinates in GE. Once put the coordinates in Geocommunicator and then zoomed out some, but saw some Indian land, On GeoC zooming out is different than on GE....so can't say for sure until taking a look again. If they are the same, the stone chimney probably is just on the edge or next to the land line border.

 

[concho]

I do believe out locations are not the same. I believe mine is within Navaho Nation.
Nicholas

So do I Bookcliff !

 

[Red_desert]

My location was found by a retired PH D scientist who lives in Phoenix, AZ. He used the mineral satellite, since being a qualified scientist, to locate a significant network of gold veins of the type which scientifically could produce the Lost Adams diggings. There was only one such deposit located within range of the landmarks and search area.

Interesting, the retired PH D scientist also had email contact with the author of the book "Four Days from Wingate" which is about finding the LAD. He sent me a copy of the last email from the author, they didn't agree on the location either. According to the scientist, the book had the wrong site, not all the landmarks were there (I think the springs missing also). Apparently a little gold was found, but nothing like the LAD.

The mineral satellite picked up a long 15 mile ridge of veins that the geologists had missed, when the BLM had the area checked for mineral resources. Twice geologists checked this location, not aware of gold veins. Adams did claim his diggings where a place a geologist would never find.

I know that the top of the 15 mile alteration zone is on BLM restricted land. The vein producing zone runs north/south with the NW flowing canyon on top of the N end. The spring is in the area of the stone chimney, S of it is BLM restricted area. I wasn't sure about the NW flowing canyon, but it probably is BLM also. The stone Chimney most likely is on BLM restricted land, so no way for that to be on Navajo Res. unless they would have the NW flowing canyon.

 

[Red_desert]

I have a correction to make on this site. Recently another treasure hunter on the forum here, pointed out the Spanish used tree markers and this could be of Spanish origin. I put a circle around the tree marker near the bottom point of triangle.

The arrowhead shape which looked to be either a rock or dug spot with water, going back in historic photos in GE turned up something. The arrowhead shape to the NE of tree marker, seems to be the location the tree arrow points. Found old GE maps when thing were dry. The Spanish treasure signs actually were dug out in the ground. These are shadow signs and only can be seen when the sun is at the right angle. The last map show how it looks when things are full of water.