ANACS IS KILLING ME!!

[deeptarget]

got this back from anacs a while back and thought for sure it was at least a VG8-10 grade. sorry for the crappy scan. what do you guys think would this coin have gotten better grade at another company? I guess i cant complain to much since i got it for face in a CWR. It just sucks redbook has it worth 70$ and in VG10 around 100 bucks. I want my 30$ lol. Rant over ....

 

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[sagittarius98]

Nice find from a CWR, I thought yours was MDed.

 

[Terp08]

Maybe crack it out and resubmit it somewhere else? Looks to be a better coin than the grade.

No offense but why ANACS? Kinda always looked at ANACS as the "3AM coin show lets pump out MS70s all day" grading service. Any reason why you didnt go with PCGS/NGC?

Ebay isnt accepting ANACS graded stuff anymore as well.

 

[sagittarius98]

Maybe crack it out and resubmit it somewhere else? Looks to be a better coin than the grade.

No offense but why ANACS? Kinda always looked at ANACS as the "3AM coin show lets pump out MS70s all day" grading service. Any reason why you didnt go with PCGS/NGC?

Ebay isnt accepting ANACS graded stuff anymore as well.

I believe it is only good if you have MD finds, as they can grade it, instead of sending it back.

 

[BuffaloBoy]

that is definately at least VG8, I would crack that sucker out and resubmit it to a more known and trusted company like NGC or PCGS. I personally like NGC better, but more people are familliar with PCGS.

 

[Diver_Down]

that is definately at least VG8, I would crack that sucker out and resubmit it to a more known and trusted company like NGC or PCGS. I personally like NGC better, but more people are familliar with PCGS.

Why would he do that? It looks like a net grade. The obverse is VG details, but the reverse is beat up. Submitting to PCGS will net the man a loss of a submission fee and the coin returned ungradeable as it will deemed Environmental Damage. He could choose to have PCGS encapsulate it as Genuine, but he would still have no grade.

He could always crack it out of the case and attempt to sell it raw on eBay. But of course, raw coins are not allowed to be listed with a grade.

By the way to the poster who said ANACS is not accepted for auction listings is wrong. After June 1, only PCGS and NGC will be allowed to be listed with a grade in the title or description. Raw coins or other slabbed coins can still be listed, but the seller cannot list a grade in the title or description.

 

[sagittarius98]

but the reverse is beat up.

I don't think the reverse is beat up. I would need a better pic to tell, though.

 

[Yinzi50]

I agree with Diver-down. It's an overall grade. I personally dislike NGC, the loosest grader of all four because I am a buyer most of the time.

 

[Coinkid]

I agree with Diver-down. It's an overall grade. I personally dislike NGC, the loosest grader of all four because I am a buyer most of the time.

Believe me, NGC standards are WAY above both ANACS and ICG, and on-par with PCGS.



-Paul

 

[Yinzi50]

Believe me, NGC standards are WAY above both ANACS and ICG, and on-par with PCGS.



-Paul

Pictures say more than words.

The following two sets of pictures tell you more. They are on today's teletrade.

Picture 1 and 2: PCGS 12;
Picture 3 and 4: NGC 20. There are more details on a pcgs-12 than a ngc-20

1,2





3,4

 

[Iron Patch]

If you wanted your $30 you should have just put it in a 2x2 and wrote VG+ on it!

 

[deeptarget]

here is a better picture of the reverse..I like the info on this thread please keep it coming

 

[jerseyben]

While there are several things "wrong" with this thread, I will stay on topic:

ANACS grades back - Coin Community Forum

I had the same problem. Take a look at the link above, if you wish.

 

[Diver_Down]

While there are several things "wrong" with this thread, I will stay on topic:

ANACS grades back - Coin Community Forum

I had the same problem. Take a look at the link above, if you wish.

Since you posted the link, I will stray from the original posted topic and address yours. Frist, before scrolling down the thread for the reveal, I pegged it as MS63. Your impressions of PL don't mesh with any recognized standard. The Obverse has obvious contact marks on the cheek like you mentioned, but also in the field. Even if those contact marks weren't there, it would never be PL. If the field was cleaner, then it would be 64-65. Still a very nice Morgan. Why did you choose ANACS for this coin? I would have selected NGC/PCGS.

 

[jerseyben]

Since you posted the link, I will stray from the original posted topic and address yours. Frist, before scrolling down the thread for the reveal, I pegged it as MS63. Your impressions of PL don't mesh with any recognized standard. The Obverse has obvious contact marks on the cheek like you mentioned, but also in the field. Even if those contact marks weren't there, it would never be PL. If the field was cleaner, then it would be 64-65. Still a very nice Morgan. Why did you choose ANACS for this coin? I would have selected NGC/PCGS.

Diver Down: I stand corrected. I see the marks in the field. Not sure how so many others missed them (including myself). MS-63 it is. Thanks for your help!

 

[Diver_Down]

Diver Down: I stand corrected. I see the marks in the field. Not sure how so many others missed them (including myself). MS-63 it is. Thanks for your help!

I didn't mean to knock your Morgan. She is a fine looking coin. It is just in my experience when someone claims PL - It isn't. If you want an affordable Morgan in high mint state with Proof Like surfaces, then seek out an 1881-S. A very large percentage of the surviving population were extremely well struck with DMPL surfaces. I myself can't resist them. I have a half a dozen of them. When they surface from collections at local auctions around me, I end up adding them to my collection.

Now, if you want a challenge, seek out DMPL New Orleans mint Morgans. New Orleans was known for not producing the highest quality Morgans; many aren't well-struck. Consequently, the numbers that do meet the criteria of a high mint state command a premium. Combine the high mint state with DMPL qualities, and they are extremely scarce and command a hefty premium.

 

[jerseyben]

I didn't mean to knock your Morgan. She is a fine looking coin. It is just in my experience when someone claims PL - It isn't. If you want an affordable Morgan in high mint state with Proof Like surfaces, then seek out an 1881-S. A very large percentage of the surviving population were extremely well struck with DMPL surfaces. I myself can't resist them. I have a half a dozen of them. When they surface from collections at local auctions around me, I end up adding them to my collection.

Now, if you want a challenge, seek out DMPL New Orleans mint Morgans. New Orleans was known for not producing the highest quality Morgans; many aren't well-struck. Consequently, the numbers that do meet the criteria of a high mint state command a premium. Combine the high mint state with DMPL qualities, and they are extremely scarce and command a hefty premium.

DMPL Morgan Dollars, Prooflike Morgans & How to Tell the Difference

I used the reflection test on the reverse and came up with PL. It shines like a mirror. Although, I am willing to accept that it probably is not truly PL.