2 Escudos

[stupot]

I found this Cob 28 years ago with a Whites PI here in England at the site of an old harbor. There were many 17/18th century items including a couple of smaller silver cobs.

I know its a Bogota issue, think its Pedro Ramos moneyer. Could anyone please confirm any dating and details you might have to help. Out of every coin I've found, this is my best. I have been interested in wrecks since I was small, a 1715 fleet classic from England.

Hope someone might shed more light on this buttery yellow beauty!

 

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[pepperj]

Love the description "Buttery yellow" makes my mind mellow.
Thanks for sharing this beauty.
The "Don" of coin IDs should be able to give you some information.

 

[Blak bart]

So nice...been looking for one for awhile now....been a great search but no escudos yet !! Congrats sir !!

 

[Mackaydon]

I'm not familiar with the name of the assayer you mentioned, though I am familiar with the name Pedro Ramos who was the assayer at the Santa Fe de Bogota mint during the period 1642-1676 when the shield type cobs were minted.
If the mint mark is NR, then Bogota is the mint. In any event, a coin from Bogota is relatively rare; congrats on your find
Don.....

 

[stupot]

I'm not familiar with the name of the assayer you mentioned, though I am familiar with the name Pedro Ramos who was the assayer at the Santa Fe de Bogota mint during the period 1642-1676 when the shield type cobs were minted.
If the mint mark is NR, then Bogota is the mint. In any event, a coin from Bogota is relatively rare; congrats on your find
Don.....

I can see NR letters above one another on the right of shield. There's a II and R below on left. Is the R for Ramos? Can see a letter S below shield. Any dating info would be appreciated. Many Thanks

 

[cuzcosquirrel]

Its from the late 1640's or early 1650's. This has a similar die to the Nuevo Reino 2 escudo cobs found in a hoard in South America. Sedwick had a few of them for sale about 5 to 8 years ago. It doesn't fall into any seizure or fight time period, but gold "Pistoles" had an exchange rate in London, and were used along with other coins.

 

[stupot]

Its from the late 1640's or early 1650's. This has a similar die to the Nuevo Reino 2 escudo cobs found in a hoard in South America. Sedwick had a few of them for sale about 5 to 8 years ago. It doesn't fall into any seizure or fight time period, but gold "Pistoles" had an exchange rate in London, and were used along with other coins.

That's helpful thanks. I wanted to tie the date down. I read about that hoard, what a story! We find a number of brass coin weights for foreign gold coins. There were many such coins circulating in England at the time. Thanks again

 

[cuzcosquirrel]

1628 to 1665

 

[stupot]

1628 to 1665

Thanks for letting me know the dating. Could I ask what gives you the date range for the coin?

These coins fascinate me!

 

[cuzcosquirrel]

The crown fleurs in the quadrants on the reverse. Here is a dated one 1654.

https://www.pcgs.com/auctionprices/item/colombia-1654-r-2-escudos-santa-fe-de-nuevo-reino-bogota-mint-philip-iv-1621-1665-restrepo-m50-25-ms-64-pcgs/734877/-4419574666923797894

 

[stupot]

The crown fleurs in the quadrants on the reverse. Here is a dated one 1654.

https://www.pcgs.com/auctionprices/item/colombia-1654-r-2-escudos-santa-fe-de-nuevo-reino-bogota-mint-philip-iv-1621-1665-restrepo-m50-25-ms-64-pcgs/734877/-4419574666923797894

Thanks for the information. It adds a lot to the site that it came from. Now it ties it down quite specifically. Thank you again .

 

[E-Trac-Ohio]

Wow !!!